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800. - Rico Nasty

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Rico Nasty is a musician currently living in Los Angeles. Her newest record, LETHAL, is out now. We chat about Todd Chrisley's first day out, the 2025 American Music Awards, The Rehearsal finale, Halloween decorations, her assistant's duties, selling feet pics, Lil Wayne and Lil B, Elle Fanning, her unique genealogy, Puerto Rican music, teaching her kid how to microwave, and the current state of his iPad, how far she will go to rhyme to words together, she's a barb, Azealia Banks Twitter, her YMCMB era, and her fab Birdman impression. instagram.com/riconasty twitter.com/donetodeath twitter.com/themjeans howlonggone.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. How long gone? It is a... What day is it, Jason? Is it... tuesday tuesday may 27th at 2 42 p.m a little late a little long in the tooth for a recording day but you had a busy shoot day you had to get your little la chapelle on didn't you cranium that's god damn it uh yeah i did i had to go to the the west village and and um take pictures of rita and jody who own via crota as as well as several other restaurants in that neighborhood it's a classic like four places in a two block radius which seems like the dream as a restaurateur you know like to just have the whole block just the whole block and they also just bought which is really interesting next to bar like how kith does it exactly how kith does it next to bar pisselino they have um a there's like a liquor store that's been there like a wine store that's one of the first ever great bathroom at bar pisselino by the way go ahead that's the Is that how you say it? Hold on, now I'm worried. I think that's how you say it. Maybe it's Pissalino. Either way, it sounds like piss or peace, so it works for me. Pissalino, yeah. P-I-S-E-L-L-I-N-O. I gotta make a Pissalino. Pull the Alfa Romeo over, please. So they got this liquor store, basically, that was next door, and it's got all the licenses to sell wine from the 30s.

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So it feels like they just waited out a guy. The wine is from the 30s or the license is from the 30s? I'm saying it's been an operating liquor store since post-prohibition. You know what I mean? So bad. Yeah. But I mean, I'm sorry. We need to focus on what's important, not my amateur photography. But Donald Trump, I don't know if you're familiar with him, James. He's the president of the United States of America. And a lot of people don't like him. I don't like him necessarily, but he did something today that I have to respect, and that is he pardoned the Chrisley family. Southern royalty, closeted gay man Chris Chrisley and his beard have been sprung from the local jail. by donald trump and i just we got to give it up we got to give up for the chrisley's yeah big donnie a broken clock right twice a day exactly god did is what i have to say about this i believe in god now um and all it took was one pardon for people that truly deserve it these people have done nothing but give to the community and by community i mean the people who watch the reality show okay and we we don't even remember what simple white collar crime chrisley did yeah some fraud oh wire fraud oh lock me up oh no my wire grow up grow up wire fraud dead ass if i was on trial for wire fraud i'd tell the judge grow up that's what i would say if he was trying to put me put me behind bars you make me come up you can make me come all the way uptown for this judge this is crazy and also you know chris whenever you and i are talking about sentencing, hashtag sentencing, which we do a lot on this show, you always, you famously like to say, they talk about it in the Reddit, they famously say, Chris is always saying, let's give him time served. You know what I mean? Let's give him time served. You're a big time served guy, but when you want, if you've seen one episode, even if you've seen a 30 second clip of Chris Lee, imagining that person in jail.

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Oh, no. It's compounded interest in terms of time served. Here's the thing, though. What if he's running that shit like the Navy? What if he's the baddest bitch in the white-collar crime jail? What if he's gotten comfortable? I guess he could be like the Tiger King. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's running his business just fine. He's on his fourth jail marriage. Yeah, that's what I mean. He's recording his live podcast. He's Twitch streaming. He's doing pretty well over there, and there's a chance that Chrisley... Because Chrisley can now, because, you know, prisons aren't co-ed, so he can bottom with throwing caution to the wind. No wife in sight, no kids in sight. And he's probably a pretty good card player. You know what I mean? So there's a lot of stuff. You know, I don't know how many push-ups he can do. Do you know how to play bridge, Hector? Well, get over here. I'll teach you. Get over here now. What gang are you a part of? Okay, just one second. Pay attention right here. What does that tattoo mean? If you want to play with me. It has to be uncut. You know that, Hector. Get over here. All right, so we're going to play Strip Bridge. It's a game I invented. It's a good jail game that I just invented. Yeah, so I think there's a small chance that he is quote-unquote running-ish, but I think more so he's probably had to keep his head down lay low. Yeah, I agree. What a sobering experience. You know what I mean? It's like when Martha Stewart went to jail. Everyone was like, really? Come on, guys. No, the Chrisleys are going to get out. Their kids are going to have them set up in a nice four-bedroom in Franklin Hills right outside of Nashville. They're going to be good to go. They're going to be rubbing elbows with Nicole Kidman and fucking Keith Urban in days. Yeah, I would say any sweet green owners listening right now, let's give them a little cashew. Welcome home. First day out. Let him try the new Korean barbecue menu. First day out, you know I'm getting a shroom on me. First day out? Imagine you've been eating syrup sandwiches for the last three years after you did a little bid, not upstate, downstate. Come out, the all-new sweet green menu. They got fries now? Get the frig out of here. And you're like, yeah, we cook them in an air fryer, Chrisley. And he's like...

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Oh, air what? And you're like, it's been a while, Chrisley. Sit down. That's like when people go to jail for 30 years. They come out. They don't know how to use a cell phone. It's the same thing with the sweet green menu since Chrisley's been doing a dime. You have an iPhone. They try to hammer a nail into a piece of wood with it. You're like, no, no, no. This is the future of technology. No, that's a French fry. It's air fried. But I'm glad. Look, I'm glad that they're free or soon to be free. And this is hopefully they get a nice fat reality TV deal because post jail, if you're going to do anything, you've got to make money. Yeah. You know, your assets are frozen. You've got to start producing some income. And I'm sure Trump is hitting him with that little tax as well. You know, at a certain time, you know, when you get out, you're going to have to start making some cash and there's going to be a little vague on you. 20% off the top. Go straight down to Mar-a-Lago. That's just for a little walking around money. I wonder who Trump's tariff enforcer is in the personal zone. You know what I mean? You're right, though. You know this ain't for free. His day-to-day enforcer? Something happened here. There's no way he's just doing this because he loves Southern gay guys. That's too easy. Well, he normally... I mean, this is the first non-rapper he's pardoned in a while, right? That's a good point. That's actually a really good point. So there must be even more to the story that we are seeing. Yeah, I mean, there's got to be a guy named Salvador or something like that that's going to pay Grizzly a visit every two months, and he's going to want those 20s in a Kroger bag. Not Publix. You know Donald likes Kroger more. I need you to put it in the right bag, sweetheart. I also... I... got excited because uh holiday weekends are the worst they're boring the city is full of tourists the airports are full of idiots you can't win and um i got excited because i was like oh there's an award show even though it's the american music awards and that's fake at least at least it's something for me to look forward to you know at least it's something for me to watch on television i've you know i've finished uh

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the benny drama show there's not much left you know so so much like uh like a kratom bar to a uh heroin addict you're like it's better than nothing we'll pull over and check it out ama is suboxone for someone like me you know so it's like let's do it and I have to say, I can find a glimmer of gold in almost any award show. It's one of my special powers, one of my only skills. Sure. And it was one of the worst things, low-budget things I've ever seen on television. You thought Below Deck was cheap to make? J-Lo did. J-Lo opened the show. J-Lo's the host, which is also she's completely irrelevant at this point. J-Lo opens the show with an insane dance number. to a medley of all the hit songs of the year, not even singing or playing her own songs. So not even a 116 of Waiting for Tonight? She might have done 116 of something, but it might have been something from the new album, you know, the dreaded new J-Lo album. So she does that, and then it continues. The red carpet was one of the craziest things I've ever seen. It was someone, a streamer named QT Cinderella. That's literally her name, who was like a lobotomized Taylor Swift vibe, was hosting with a guy from Billboard, and they were just like, no one would stop to talk to them. No real celebrities would stop. So it was really amazing. Damn, is QT Cinderella the white Awkwafina? But then Kai Sinat stops because he's ganged with her because they're gamer streamers together. It's all so twisted. The stream. Country legend Blake Shelton and his Orange County bride, Maga Stefani, he played first and then introduced her. And I found out today, thanks to Stereogum, that those performances were pre-taped. They weren't even there. Which is like... If you can't get Blake Shelton to come to your award show, then I think you've got to hang it up. I guess the fact that it's on a Monday, it's on Memorial Day, and I learned that it was happening like four hours before on Twitter, like from Pop Crave or something. The extent of the marketing campaign was, let's pay Pop Crave $400 to post about it. Not a bad idea.

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No, no, no. And we love our friends over at PopCraft. Yeah, I mean, the promo, like the big people on the red carpet were Gloria Estefan. Like, that's literally what the vibe was. And Gloria Estefan, a legend, don't get me wrong, but... not moving the needle she's not getting the eyeballs locked in let's say that we don't want whoever's playing abuela on the george lopez reboot to be our uh to be the lead on the red double a list talent like who's well who's the top of the top though oh it is gloria stefan okay but usually these award shows you know people show but there's somebody named becky g she's grande she's grande but not in your world she's big But not in my world, yeah. But she looked like a star, like she's beautiful and put together. Sure. And that felt good because everybody else did not look like that. So shout out to Becky for that. Oh, and also a friend of the show, Rebecca Black, was DJing the after party apparently to an empty room, I read. Every DJ is a nightmare. Oh, Rebecca. Yeah, we're going to get RB on the pod, right? She'd be a hoot. Yeah, that's sis. I know. I've tried. I don't know what happened. I've tried a few times, and the conversation peters out as it's something. times does but we'll we might be too straight for her now she said that yeah they're like what have you what's been like fueling you creatively and she's like gay sex that's literally her answer on the red carpet yeah lately i've just been focusing on being like a local munch for three to four power tops what the fuck it's a really funny answer but it felt it felt uh serious it didn't feel like she was trying to be right right and that's in lies the issue perhaps in lies the issue um well i'm glad i missed it i was catching up on a little rehearsal you don't watch that show though right no i don't get it i i don't get it i just it's not for me i've tried like i know it's crazy i don't like it but The final episode is about pilots, correct? I've seen it all over the internet today. The whole season is sort of about him trying to literally solve a problem, which is why all these airplanes keep crashing. I haven't seen the very finale episode, very final episode, so no spoiler alerts will come out of my mouth. But he seems to have basically figured out that because

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The co-pilot and the pilot workplace dynamic is so tense. The co-pilot does not feel like he's in a safe space to criticize the captain who's steering the ship. So instead, you know, 300 perish in a fireball, whatever. Oh, I see. And then this is just in America, but like in other countries. um oftentimes asian countries where like the seniority with your elder and the the younger subordinate is a lot more intense where you know if the captain is fucking up or drunk or whatever yeah the co-cap the co-pilot's just like well about to die yeah i can't say anything to the big boss i can't say a damn thing yeah i can't say nothing and they found out that that basically pilots and co-pilots don't talk anymore so he's trying to get them to bro down and be friends and It's kind of interesting. I haven't seen the very end of it, but he eventually gets his pilot's license and really goes in. What you just described sounds great to me, and then I'll try to watch it and just be like, I don't like this. I wish I did, because it seems like something that I should like, especially if I lived in Brooklyn. To me, it's one of those things where you try to do a thing once. I'm not talking about you specifically, but just us humans in general. We're like, I'm going to try to do this thing, and then you try it once. And you're like, oh, well, that ain't going to happen again. I tried that and no, no, no. And it's one of those things where somebody has to sort of like literally hold you down and create the perfect scenario. You know, like if you and I had a, we were doing a couple's retreat in Aspen and there's nothing going on. Park you up. I got a big bowl of Bjorn corn. I've got your emotional support, harmless harvest, ready to go. Chilling with no makeup on. You got your little tecla socks on or whatever. Warming by the fire. I'll just start this one up, Chris. I think you might like it. I see. I get into it. I'm sort of explaining. I see where, you know, your hamster wheels spin in. And you're like, hmm, my brain doesn't work in this world of absurdity. And I'll be the translator for you. Next thing you know, we're on episode four. Wow. You know, Jason, like low key, I think I like this. Yeah, I think you're right. There's a set in setting. You get up to go pee and you say.

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Can you pause it? I'm like, uh, uh, the pause. Damn, that's real shit, though. That's real shit, though. Yeah, when Shorty says pause it, woo, she liked it. When Shorty says pause and she's talking about the TV, that's the best. That's the best. That's the best. Yeah, you're watching Ken Burns' Dust Bowl. You're on hour seven, and she's like, I'm getting a little hungry, actually. Can you pause this? I'll be right back. Put a ring on it. I want to put some cookies. I was put on to a new product today by David Cho. Okay. It's called Grethers, and it's like a pastille. It's like a little gummy-type chew-type lozenge that apparently is a secret for many professional singers because I've had long COVID for like eight months. And our friend Spencer was like, bro, you got to fix this. I'm like, I can't. I've tried everything and Joe was like, hold on. Tin fish. I also just like the initial sentence where you're like, a product called Drether's, which appears to be a pastille. And I was like, these are two words that have not been uttered since the mid-1800s. This is like proto-ricola. But there's a delicious-looking ginger lemon flavor, but they only sell them at kind of like, chic, old-school pharmacies like C.O. Bigelow or Zidamers or whatever. Apothecaries? But they're on Amazon too, bro. Yeah, but they only have the variety packs on Amazon. I only want the ginger lemon. I cannot fuck with some black currant. Black currant, blueberry, red currant. None of that sounds good to me. Not a currant lover. Okay, that's fine. Not a currant lover. All right, we have a guest today. Rico Nasty. musician actress etc etc has a new album out actually came out the 16th called lethal and we got a lot to cover with with rico i believe we do yeah rico's been making the rounds on the pods i heard a couple here and there she did rick rubin's pod um and i gave it a little listen so just another stop on the pod train for rico we're excited to have her and i also this is episode 800

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That is Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash how long. That'll get you free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince punto com slash how long. Oh my God. Fucking buzzer beater. I'm the baddest bitch. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Damn. Wow. I like that it doesn't take much for you to celebrate. I like that. You're quick to pat yourself on the back, and that's nice. When it comes to external audio settings, you really are that bitch. Please let them hoes know something. I'm chilling in Tulum right now. We just figured some shit out from scratch. You hoes could never, okay? No assistant. No assistant on deck. Pure brain. by yourself you look to be by yourself i don't see an assistant hiding anywhere or any okay but i will say that the toluminati charges are also you have a round window like a porthole i do you live on a damn cruise ship this is your home this is your home carnival cruise house is this in la or new york or where is la yeah okay okay you only find cool shit like i feel like it's very it's a very very niche house there's like a studio in the backyard it's very like made for artist type of yeah it's pretty cool yeah so What is up with this round window though? And that has a custom two window. I don't know if you can see like right here. It like closes. But yeah, I call that like the submarine window or like the evil lair window. Like if my friends are coming over, I'll tell them where to park. I went back to Rico's house and she closed the window. You know what was going on. During Halloween, I had two bloody hand stickers up there. So we're decorating for holidays over at the nasty household. Oh, yeah. I have a nine-year-old. He's about to be 10. I have to decorate. Oh, shit. Okay, you don't have a choice. Yeah, those guys. But if you did not have a nine-year-old, you would still be going off on Halloween at your house, I'm assuming, though, right? Probably not. It's just expensive. Okay. All right, so we're hitting the Halloween warehouse. What's the check looking like? What are we talking about when we leave? Bro, that shit is like $500. It's not like a crazy check, but for something that's going to be used.

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once a year and sit in the garage and you're getting like skeletons and cobwebs cobwebs are like a hundred dollars i had for halloween this past year i had cobwebs running across the entire balcony that's oh that's that's taxing you that is it was like fucking three hundred dollars for cobwebs then we had to get two big ass skeletons those were like seventy dollars Then you had to get, like, my son wanted these projector lights of the Exorcist. Bro, it was crazy. You wanted, like, a projector light of, like, the Exorcist on the house. That's extra. That is extra. We had to get that. My house does not have any external plugs. Then we had to buy, like, a tiny little generator thing that could play up outside. Wow. Buying a generator to project the Exorcist on your house for Halloween is the definition of extra. I'm going to get you an extension cord for Christmas this year, girl. No. Nice extension cord. You can't do it through the extension cord because then like the window is going to be open or the door is going to be open. Oh, good point. Good point. You've thought of everything. OK, so. Wow. So, I mean, I can only imagine what Christmas is like then. It must look like Santa's Wonderland in that bitch. I don't do a big Christmas. And, you know, it's so funny because my son's birthday is literally the literally November 24th. So when you think Christmas, that's literally a month away. I do the most for his birthday. I mean, his birthday is also by Thanksgiving. Yeah. So that's a lot. So the cake has to look like a turkey. I was going to say. He's a bicoastal baby. So he has an East Coast birthday and a West Coast birthday. And like, it's just like, it'd be a lot around that time of year for me. It's a lot. I mean, a lot of planning, a lot of gathering, getting people together. And so by the time Christmas rolls around, you're lucky if I get a tree. Last year was the first time that I ever did a Christmas tree. Real or fake? Fake as fuck. Are you kidding me? What? I just wanted to double check. What does smell? You need that smell, Rico. I folded that bitch up and put it right back in the box. I'm not doing it. I have a cat, so my cat probably. You know what? Your house sounds like there's a lot going on over there. It's pretty quiet, though.

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I think you need an assistant, though. I'm sure there's some people listening that would love to apply if you need help. No, I have an assistant, but I meet some rappers, and they're like, yeah, my assistant, they live with me. I'm like, what the fuck? The assistant's got to live with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no. That's a handler. That's a handler. That's true. You're not going to get me. There is a fine line between a handler and assistant keeping an eye on you. Why the fuck do you have to live with me? That does feel a little extreme, but I think to really ingratiate yourself and make yourself a third hand for your boss, you've got to be there. You've got to be on the emails. She is here. She's here at the crack of ass, and she's the last person to leave. What do you have her doing exactly? Is she just supporting? She's doing everything. She's carrying extra BlackBerry batteries. Does she have to take all those cobwebs? down on on november 19th she does no oh my god okay so it's so funny because there's been like tears there's been like tears of this shit she used to have to clean my closet i think that was like it's so weird because now it's like i don't know if other people are like this with people that they've worked with for so long but i've been with her for like five years and she's like my a sister she's not really my assistant i've never heard that that's some hollywood terminology that i'm not familiar with a sister Too mean. Like, I love her. I appreciate her. You know, she does what she needs to do. She's all about her business. This bitch is like, if I wake up, I'm like, I need to cover art. She's like a graphic designer. She can do literally anything. She knows everybody. She low-key helped me find somebody who wound up working on the album, our homie Oscar. She's like just one of those people that just knows everybody everywhere. She's just super cool. But when we first met, yeah, the first thing I told her, I was like, can you clean out my closet? And she was like,

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what? And she was down there for like hours cleaning out my closet. And she was just like, you got to do something about this shit, bro. I was like, no, that's just it. You got to clean this. Okay. Do you, do you let her know? Do you feel bad? And you're like, you can, you can pick out two, two or three things maybe. And it's yours. Like a little gift. Oh my God. You know, it's funny. I'm, I'm not even just for her, but for everybody that comes to my house. I'm always like, do you want this? Cause I get gifted a lot of things. You got too much stuff. Yeah. I mean, That's the gift and a curse. You know, you got to clean out the beauty closet when anyone comes over. Question about your sister. What's her personal life looking like? Does she have a man or a woman? Is there a partner involved that has to deal with your bullshit as well? Oh, that's so funny. That's so funny. So, like, bro, me and her, when I say we've literally been through it all together, when we first met, we were both dating someone. bro we got like so busy and it's different when when you go from like not having an assistant or just really not having a woman present on your team and then you like have this person y'all do everything together y'all just get your nails done y'all telling each other tea it's like you just start seeing certain things and we both kind of were like why are we in relationships bro like You're saying you guys are at tips to toes, and you're talking, and you basically convince each other to break up with your significant others. This is why we are scared of women. This is why we're scared of women. We both came into the situation unhappy. We were having issues, but we didn't know each other well enough to speak on them. And then one day, bro, something happened. And like, I know it was me for a fact. I was like, what the fuck? Or I got mad about something. She was like, you're going through that too? And it was like, wait, what? And we bonded over it. And it was like, we're too busy to like be dealing with this. Dealing with this bullshit. It's just like, we're too busy for this. Like we have so much.

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to live i'm sure it's not for lack of offers i'm sure you're hotly you know you're hot well let's say let's no it's actually let's stop that because no i don't i don't have like guys in my suitors you don't have suitors no i don't have like i don't think i put myself out there enough but like Nor do I feel like I need that. Well, after you do How Long Gone, you're going to have a lot of corked up white boys in the DMs. Just warning you now. Let's see. I thought they hated me. Screamo dick coming at you right now. I didn't know that they liked me. Really? Yeah. I've never been hit on by a white man. Really? Never. Damn. Not in real life. Maybe on the internet. Not in real life. That doesn't count. Damn. All right, white men. Once again, got to step up. I don't know, though. Should they? Do you find that women shoot their shot a little bit more than the fellas? Yeah, the guy that I'm talking to now. I shot my shot. Was this an IRL you pulled up on him? No, it's always going to be IRL. I'm not like an internet type of person. Low-key, I just started getting back on the internet. I have someone who, like, runs it. So I'm not really, like, an internet type of person. I don't. It's so funny. We have a lot of friends that are doing the same thing. They're like, I don't use, like, there's somebody at the label or the management company that handles Instagram and Twitter. I don't have to do that shit. I made a tweet the other day, though. It's a golden tweet. I'm going to reread it back to you because I thought it was so fucking funny because this is exactly how I feel. Is it a golden tweet? It's a golden tweet. Sounds like an award for the best tweet. Sorry, go ahead. No, it's literally the best tweet you'll see. I said, after not. running my socials for so long when i get back on here to be giving mental wellness retreat when they let you have phone time the dopamine is hitting you when you're looking at it yeah i'm like oh my god look at all these people trying to talk to me they love me i felt crazy as fuck i feel that whenever whenever i go on an airplane like a long plane ride i'll turn the the wi-fi off or turn the airplane mode off don't look at it and then when you land it's like the slot machine you look like the most important person i turn my phone on i do the same thing

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And I turn my phone on because I want people, ding, ding, ding. I'm like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. I used to do that until I heard this. There was a book, like pre-cancellation, like trend. There was a book and there was a story about a woman tweeting something and getting on a flight to Africa. and by the time she landed, her entire life was ruined. What the fuck? I don't remember what the tweet was or why it was offensive, but she basically landed, and it was like she'd been fired from her job. It was like a whole thing, and it just made me too paranoid. I had that happen to me. I got canceled. I got canceled on a plane. What'd you do? Bro, they pulled up some old tweets. They pulled up some old tweets to me and my homie. The whole shit got debunked, and even still to this day, I feel like an asshole about it because... basically I was getting canceled on a plane and the timing is just funny because I was getting canceled on a plane but I didn't have wi-fi so when I got off it's like fresh to me yeah so I'm not really realizing how long this conversation has already been going on pre me jumping into it came into it hella ignorant I said some crazy shit out the gate. And it was like, oh, God. It was just like. You're saying your reaction was a little bit too, let's say, hot coming in. Coming in through conversation that's like six hours late. And it was like, they were like, oh, this bitch is just disrespectful. And I couldn't read the room. Then I sat back. I read the room and I was like, this is I have to do better, bro. Like you got to learn how to shut the fuck up. Just shut up. Just shut up. What what what what flavor was this cancellation? Because I the one that Chris was talking about, a woman tweeted going to Africa. Hope I don't get AIDS. Just kidding. I'm white. Oh, my God. That's like that's fucking that's like, OK, that's 10. That's a 10. That's 10. That's a 10. You're done. You're cooked. You're cooked. It's over. But she only had 170 followers. Yeah, she's a civilian. It doesn't matter. It's Twitter. It doesn't matter. Even the civilian can get it. No, it doesn't matter. That's crazy. Great book. She's fucking insane for that. To tweet that. Yeah, what was your flavor? Bro, mine was like a fucking.

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Oh, God. I mean, I hate rating it because it was still offensive as fuck. They told me not to say it. Joey's like, actually, let's move on from this subject. They told me not to say a word. I apologize. And in my apology, I said the word, which is just like redundant as fuck. I like it. It's a classic move, Rico. I love that move. It's like a fucking that's a solid six. It's just like you're an asshole. like you're just an asshole yeah you're just a fucking asshole for real well look i'm glad you made it through you know what i mean you're fine you made it through yeah thank god i mean i've grown up a lot i mean it's so weird when you're like 19 because believe it or not you say so much right you say so much about they're using me for cult but sometimes i would say dumb shit just because like i knew it would go viral and and at what cost like i feel like it tainted people's perspective perspective on like who i really am because I kind of was just saying shit. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so now, like, yeah, they bring tweets up, and I can't stand by any of those things. That kind of reminds me of, that reminds me of, like, the Tyler the Creator effect, where you meet him, he's a very sweet, nice young man. And then you pull up the old tweets and you're like, dear Christ in heaven, this is the nastiest, worst thing you could ever say to somebody, you know? I like it. It gives him some depth. And he pulls up wearing like a golf shirt like, hey guys, how are you? He pulls up in the Bugatti rumbling. He's like, hey bitches. Hey bitches. Is that bitch? Hey bitches. So did you study from the Tyler School of Tweeting? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, probably like Tyler, Lil B, Chief Keef, Young Thug. Those are the best tweeters of all time. I agree. Those are some of the... The best tweeters of all time. Lil B's tweets had another special flavor to them, remember? Lil B did like asking 13-year-olds for feet pics on Maine. What? What are you talking about, what? What was that? There's like thousands of tweets of him reposting underage.

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feet it's fucked up he didn't ask for pictures of your feet is what i'm is what i'm saying if you were that if you're following that closely you guys want to know crazy lore you guys want to know crazy did you send little b did you yes yes yes i didn't send little b any feet pics but that is something that i would do for money before i made music and i was dating this guy and he was like running my socials because i was becoming this like rapper and he was like not running my socials but like He had the passwords. He was your feet pimp. Yeah. No, he didn't know. He didn't know. This is the tea I'm telling you. This is music only. Music only. Music only. Rico, let me ask you, what's the cash app looking like for the feet? What's the price? Adjust for inflation. Yeah. Like $50, $100. Okay, $50 or $100 is, I mean, it's literally feet. Yeah, it wouldn't be nothing crazy, but I had like. people that were like consistent and like they found like my instagram and i found out that i was like music so they were like dming me and he had the password and he's seeing them and this man he was like if you he was like oh you haven't sent me pictures in months and it was like this whole big thing and he was like i didn't know you was into that type of shit like that's weird and i felt like really ashamed about it and like Yeah, it was, like, really weird. That's a really weird lore. Where's that guy now, though? You know what I mean? Yeah, hopefully not talking to a girl who has feet fixed. That's all he learned from the situation. Somewhere with my soul out is crazy. Chill with my soul out. Well, I mean, like, you look at musician Lily Allen. she's currently is selling feet and she's a multi-millionaire yeah and she said that she's making more money on the feet pics than she is on the music yeah on all the music and she's still you know hitting millions of streams a month you know bro i think it's kind of wicked but i'm doing a tv show right now with um like apple tv 824 and um i'm playing like an only fans model and i was like i was just like thinking i was like i should really use this to pivot

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Is there like an intimacy coach for playing an OnlyFans model? There is, but there's no intimacy scene. There's no... Okay. It's just about you making money. Yeah, type shit. Okay. So what is the show called? It's called Margo's Got Money Troubles. Based on a very popular book, Chris. Yes, based on a very popular book. And shout out to the author, Rufy Thorpe. She came to my album release. She's a rock star. She's cool as fuck. Oh, yeah. We're from the same area. What is the book called the same thing? Yeah, Margo's Got Money Troubles. And the cast is stacked. I'm with Elle Fanning and Nicole Kidman. Nicole Kidman. Michelle Pfeiffer and Nick Offerman. Michelle Pfeiffer. Yeah, yeah. I see my bitch. Elle Fanning. Elle Fanning is. trending for having a fat ass yeah no joke no joke people are like how did we not know guys but no no no but it is people are like she's she's gorgeous she's a gorgeous gorgeous girl i will say that like when i met her i was very like wow she's like she's tall like she's tall she's pretty she's built like a literal fucking model but um working with a monster oh my god you guys are so funny you guys are like oh my god she has a fat butt No, that's what, this is pictures from Cannes are circulating. It's currently trending. I've never looked. She's like literally like breathtaking. I literally, when I have to like work on set with her. She has like a porcelain doll. Yeah, she just looks very unreal. And even just growing up watching her is just weird. And knowing her sister was in Uptown Girls, it's just like all of it. Who the fuck? Her best work, her most famous work, of course. This is kind of insane. sometimes. Like, Elle, I know you did the whole, you know, Bob Dylan movie, but can we talk about Uptown Girls that your sister was in? She's actually, Elle is in the new Predator movie, and that shit's gonna be crazy. Like, that shit's gonna be fire. So she went from a complete unknown to Predator 17? What's up with that, bro? No, bro. She actually, when Elle was what, like, if you read the audiobook, she's, like, the one reading it or whatever. And she was kind of the one that made me, like,

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fall in love with like i guess my character or whatever because i knew that it would be like her best friend in the story and i was like well she's really fucking cool and it's like it just all made sense even the other girl that i'm working with her name is lindsey she was in anora and that fucking one it's like yeah the cast is i'm like damn let me get an award bitch so are you catch up How much acting had you, like, was this a big ambition or did this kind of fall in your lap? Oh, yeah. It was, you know, I'm not afraid to admit when I failed. And, yeah, I've done a lot of auditions and I've not gotten them. So I'm happy. That's all part of the game. Our best thespians have experienced the same failure. Exactly. So, no, this is not like a little hobby. My agent threw me to the side, like, oh, do this. Okay, but let me ask another. I read the book. What's the money looking like, though? Very good. Top of the line. That's right. That's right. I thought I saw David Guetta back there doing a private set, but I guess that was just that was just OK. That's just my backyard. All right. So the money is looking good. What's the time commitment, though? Is it crazy hours? Oh, it's so funny because I look, you have to take myself out of Rico Nasty. when I step into the acting world because it's very much, it's so different. You take that nasty hat off. Well, like Ludacris. You go from Ludacris to Chris Bridges is what you're saying. Yes, exactly that. Exactly that. Exactly that. Bro, I'm going to make a song called Chris Bridges. Fuck is she talking about? What? Hell yeah. I go from The Rock to Dwayne, bitch. I go from Drake to Aubrey, bitch. Like, I am like... You go Ice Cube to O'Shea Jackson. I go Rick O'Nasty to Maria Kelly, okay? I'm in that hole. I'm at Crafty. Maria speaking. Present. Present. I gotta say, Maria Kelly is one of the whitest names I've ever heard. I gotta be honest with you. I got to be honest with you. And that's coming from a guy with a pretty white name. I would love to see you host a morning show with three of your tightest white bitches that you know. Maria Kelly. The Maria Kelly show. Maria Kelly in the morning. Maria Kelly in the morning. V103 coming to you live. This is after acting. We go to Young Jock hosts a big radio show. Because Maria Kelly is just very, I never really, I mean, my last name is very Irish.

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Kelly is very Irish. And Maria, Maria is, my first name is Maria Cecilia. Oh, wow. Like hyphenated? Yes. Damn, that's a twisted first name. Oh, some Italian shit. Yeah. Yes, Maria Cecilia. What's your background? I'm Puerto Rican and my dad is black, so. Oh, okay. So you don't even have any, all right, so Kelly, where the fuck did they get this from? My dad's side of the family, they're all Kelly. It's so funny. So, okay, it's not funny. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's trying to slow down. The news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. A lot of questions. But how often? Because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Three times a week. And I have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. The Guardian is not some billionaire owned. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch it on YouTube. It's three times a week. And who couldn't use more news? Especially when it's not from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. Hi, Talk House Network listeners. It's your old friend, Nels Klein, from Wilco here. Wilco is touring this summer, and we'd love to see you somewhere on the road. We're playing shows this June and July in Rochester Hills, Michigan, Chautauqua, New York, Lafayette, New York, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, Vienna, Virginia, Forest Hills, New York, Portland, Maine, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Memphis, Tennessee, LaGrange, Georgia, Charleston, South Carolina, Virginia Beach, Virginia, Wheeling, West Virginia, and Columbus, Ohio. Plus, there are even more dates, some with Willie Nelson that I didn't even mention here. So please go to wilkoworld.net to see the full list of dates. We'll see you on the road this summer. How many discounts does USAA Auto Insurance offer? Too many to say here. Multi-vehicle discount. Safe driver discount. New vehicle discount. Storage discount. How many discounts will you stack up?

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Tap the banner or visit usaa.com slash auto discounts. Restrictions apply. You guys want to get a little history lesson? Don't bring us down too much, but sure. No, it's fucking, it's wicked. All right, so basically, I guess this is probably the reason why no white guys have tried to talk to me. My family, they, the origins of my grandmother's side are Nat Turner. So like, they're the Turners. And then we have. the kelly side i know i don't bear with me there with me the kelly side and from my understanding the slave owner who owned my family back then gave us the entire town it was like now it's kelly town in virginia it's nice of them yeah very nice of them right okay but um this is so fucking wow that's actually a crazy story no yeah like my bloodline is like very yeah there's some shit So like Nat Turner, like deep Nat Turner. So any white guy is like, you know what, I'm good. I guess they're probably going to be like, okay, never mind. Don't talk to her. That's wild. When you do your ancestry and it goes back to that, I was very much like, what the fuck? And that's exactly why I don't do my ancestry. I don't want to know. I don't want to know what happened. I don't want to know. You might be related to Fat Joe. You might be a Puerto Rican yourself. Bro, you might be related to Daddy Yankee. Yeah, you and Daddy Yankee. Daddy Yankee. I love Daddy Yankee, though. I'm Puerto Rican, so. But Jason found out that he's what present Native American to you, Jason? What did you find out? It was like 13, 14 percent. That's pretty high. Really? That's pretty high. And you do have a flair about you, whereas I look so white. It's like a joke. I look like a thumb. And I don't know if I found out I had 12 percent Puerto Rican. My whole I would be at the Puerto Rican Day Parade. You know what? That's one thing about.

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Finding out where you're from. I mean, finding out my last name is originally like it's Irish of some sort. It's funny because it's not funny. But then I watched Sinners and I was just so confused. I was like, wait, I'm like Irish and black and Puerto Rican. Put you through it a little bit. It made you think a little too much. It's a lot of trauma up in there. I was like, what the fuck? But I thought it was crazy because I was just like, damn, you know. i i just would you just would never know and then i did i had an opportunity to do a show in ireland and i was like i went to like the fairy the fairy forest and i actually fuck i actually fuck with irish people like i fuck with them like they're cool i fuck with their fairy culture and obviously i don't want to make it seem like leprechauns is like what they're known for but like fairy culture gnome culture is like really cool hold on hold on though hold on what rica i know your ass is into some gnome shit we're gonna get into that are you gonna but could you get down with a redhead i don't think you could oh my god gingers have no soul and i love that i love i love i know what Okay, so you're saying you're open to a ginger because they're soulless. There's like a conversation. They were like, gingers are black. I don't know where that came from, but my dad originally, like, his hair is red. I have a lot of black gingers in my family. Really? Damn. Fucking Irish. But also, Irish people have been through a lot of shit in their life as well. Irish people have been through a lot of trauma. That's actually fucking crazy. Yeah, my dad probably gets like... Yeah, because, I mean, like, my leg hair and shit is, like, blonde. I have cousins who have red hair and, like, freckles. And I guess that's Irish. I don't know. I don't know, bro. I don't know. Did you see the picture of what we're all going to look like in 2050? None of this shit matters. Everybody's going to look like Zendaya. Nice. Everybody's going to look like Kehlani and Zendaya and Bruno Mars. The goal. I'm going to come out of the womb with a face tat already. If I come out looking like Bruno Mars, we've got a problem. Don't do it. When we go back home to the Kelly House, Kelly Cookout, Memorial Day weekend, are we mixing in some Irish flavors? Fuck no. No. All right. It's PR only. You ain't doing the boiled potatoes and cabbage or nothing? No. Kelly Town. Kelly Town. That's not the Puerto Rican sign. That's the Sierras.

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That's my mom's side. So Puerto Rican, that stays in New York. You know, Raquel Sierra. She's very, like, Spanish. I love her. Are your parents still, are your parents married? They were. Okay, but no longer. I wasn't made out of wedlock. Okay, so you're, okay. Thank God, I was wondering. Right, I was made out of love. I'm not a bastard. Do they think what you're doing is cool? Are they like, could you please get a job? Oh, oh, well, it was a little bit of both. I mean, so. So, I mean, my situation is a little bit different. I didn't just wake up and say, I'm going to become a rapper. I had a baby. And then I said, I'm going to become a rapper. Oh, wow. I said, yeah. So, me baby's six months old and Lil Yachty's going on tour. So, can you watch him? Which, to my mother, sounded like, groupie, groupie, groupie, groupie, whore, whore, whore. Well, to be fair, Lil Yachty. to be fair there wasn't a cardi b there wasn't none of it there wasn't no real female i mean it was nikki minaj and fucking whatever the fuck else is going on but i want to give a shout out quickly to little yachty he looks great i really like his haircut it really it really matured him and he looks really good and i he always has he always has he's always yeah but he looks he looks good yeah but he had a chris jenner glow up he's looking crispy yeah he looks like he looks i'm sure he's getting you don't think he's looking good i think he's always looked good i think you guys just so you like the braids you like the braids i think everyone's just now catching on but i think he always like okay was a handsome guy your first tour was with your first tour was a little yachty no he just was like hey come to a show you're cute so i came to the show and so it was on some groupie shit it was uh came to the show i came to the show and then he was like um oh you do you do music right i was like yeah do music he's like oh uh let me hop on a song and then he got on

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the hey arnold song and it kind of like blew up and that was very nice of him that was like yeah the first time riot's so nice to lend a helping hand he does that a lot though i'm not the only person i can say that he's helped drake out a lot actually it's true he's given a lot of people he's given drake a lot yeah a lot of people have given drake a lot hold on so you got you got a nine year you got a nine-year-old son yes and dad is on the east coast is what you're saying yes no dad is that is where is dad Okay, so dad ain't around is what you're saying. No, he's around. He gets on my fucking nerves. I don't really keep tabs of where exactly he is. You're saying your BD gets on your nerves. Oh, please. I'm too classy for that term. Please. I hate that word. I hate that word. I had to think about it because I only hear BM in my world. Would you say child's father? is that how he's just the dude man he's the dude man the bro bro god bro god i have to say i have to say if i fumbled if i am this guy and i fumbled rico nasty and i'm seeing what's happening now i'm probably a little bit like i say that no no we could have a life together that was like You was an ugly bitch. You just crazy. And that's how he probably feels about me. He's like, yeah, she's a beautiful woman. Fucking insane. She's fucking crazy. Beautiful woman, but at what cost? You seem like a handful. Literally. You seem like a handful. He chose his mental health is what you're saying. Yeah, he chose his mental health. When we broke up, he said the funniest shit ever. He said, I'll never talk to a pretty girl again because you're all fucking evil and sick bitches on the inside. And I said, yeah, he's going to. Damn. Have a hard time. I have to say, that sounds like some white boy talk to me, but I'm glad to know that it was. He's acting like he doesn't like a crazy ass bitch. I mean, come on. I don't know. That's what men, that's what all men are built for. If you guys knew what I did, I think I'd probably be getting canceled to the 10th degree. You seem like somebody that might cut up the Amiris with the scissors. No, no, no. Let me guess. I feel like fire was involved in some capacity. No, no fire. Okay. No, no fire. What?

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What did you do? Steal his identity? How far did we go? You kill a pet? Yeah, what are we talking about? Damn, I guess I'm not that bad. I'm not that bad, no. A little mail fraud? What's going on? Go through the recycling bin? You steal all his Delta miles? No. It wasn't that bad. Well, it was bad. It was bad. I didn't fuck that shit, but... We don't need to get into it. Yeah, I'm a little scared of you in a good way, you know? Like, I feel like if I crossed you, something bad would happen to me. I think a lot of people, they think, like, oh, yeah. I think romantically, it's like, oh, she's going to get so mad. But really, I'm, like, in so calm. That's even scarier. Yeah, I think that it makes him even more scary. I think that's, like, a lesson to all my young women out there. Like, if, like, somebody pisses you off, bro. just shut the fuck up because people people who be ass shut the fuck up and they put up the ass it's like not much talking that need to be done i'ma fuck you up but i'm trying to calm down so it's like i've learned how to be quiet and it's so funny when someone is trying to cover something up and you get quiet like say they they they like oh it's like word vomit like they can't help but to keep fucking talking and they talk themselves into a hole yeah and so it's like oh i wouldn't know anything about that we only podcast three times a week i've never talked myself into a hole it's a that's a it's a common interview strategy is where you ask somebody a question and they reply with a little two-word answer and you just sit there looking at the best the best interviewers are willing to to just sit and stare until you break yeah you know so you break and it's powerful it's powerful stuff i've learned i've learned how to how to just though like i'll just be like i guess we'll just sit and sound you could do this all night we're just sitting here like you want to go crazy with me yeah not that's really powerful that's really powerful i actually have my trader joe's orange chicken in the oven i'm not even gonna go check on it it's beeping i'll let it burn usher voice i don't give a fuck oh my god you guys want to hear something fucked up my kid he's learning how to be a kid like a young adult now because he's about to be 10 this year

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Bro, there's those Trader Joe's. Do you know those? Oh my God, this shit is so funny. You know those Trader Joe's mini pancake popper puff things? Let me Google the shit. Just look up Trader Joe's pancake poppers. Pancake poppers sounds like a gay party to me, but I guess you're saying it's food, so I'm going to trust you on that. Okay, little maple guys and chocolate chip guys? Yes, yes, yes. They take 50 seconds to heat up. Microwave. microwave bro i told him 50 seconds he put them in there for five minutes he disintegrated them the whole house felt like burnt plastic it was terrible it was horrible and In that moment, I realized, I'm like, whoa, kids are really, like, not all the way there. Like, you have to teach them. I literally said five, zero. Where did the extra zero? Do you know how hard it is to hit 50 seconds on a microwave nowadays? It's tough to get that precise. You do a 30 second at a time. Start. That's what he does. He's a 30 second warrior, bro. He will do [redacted address] down to two seconds. Add another 30. Jason's a 30 second warrior, too, but it's a different kind of thing. It's like a game. I'll be good in a few minutes, babe. I hate the 30-second warriors. You need to go hiking or something, bro. You need to touch grass. Work on my mental. Okay, so your son fucked up the microwave. Because you told him to do 50 seconds, which I mean for five minutes. OK, that's no good. Well, are we going to teach him any like knife skills, safety stuff, you know, boiling water? I don't know if I'm ready for that. I don't know if I'm ready for that yet. I mean, we're still struggling to keep the goddamn juice in the cup. Shit. OK, sure. Same. Honestly, I'm clumsy. I can always tell when he poured himself some juice. The stairs are just like he's just. Like, do you have Parkinson's? Like, bro, are you okay? Like, did I need to take you to the doctor? Why are you shaking so much? But I low-key think that because he's focusing so hard on not spilling it, he's spilling it even more. And I tell him it doesn't help to fill the fucking cup to the brim. To the very top. Yeah, to the very top. Stuff like this.

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So what, what is this, what is this young man into? Like, what is his, is he spent, is he got your credit card on Roblox or is it more basketball player? Is he like tennis? I'm paying my taxes. He's, he's definitely on Roblox. Um, yeah, life was so crazy. Um, when he was a baby, he had a bedroom. I had a glam room. I had an extra closet and now my extra bedroom is his game room. No more glam. No more glam. It's got to do the glam in the living room. Oh, that's crazy. That's love, though. A lot of people I know who have kids, they end up sort of eating the same foods that their kids eat just because it's like they'll make them some food and they're like, I don't want this. And then they end up eating it all. How does it work with you? He's going to eat what I'm eating. Or else? Or else. Say not, no. I mean, he literally will. I mean. it's funny because he likes well because since a young age he's traveled a lot and he's been on tour we did like a european tour he didn't yes yes i tweeted i tweeted the other day i was like yeah my son's been on so many tours with me more than most artists someone was like yeah i hope he didn't go on the cardi one i said well too shady you bet she didn't can you imagine that trying to be a mom in the middle of that like telling people to fuck off and shit but no um but he did go on like a european tour with me and i think that was like super Amazing for both of us. I feel like it expanded his palate. He's always down to try new food. He's always, he's at least down to try. That's great. What's the little man's, what's the little man's Nobu order then, if you don't mind me asking? Oh, his Nobu order is the Wagyu Tacos. Six. Six Wagyu Tacos. Oof. Throw it in the bag. Thank God you're making money on this TV show. He's going to break your ass. No. Tell me about it. Look up the, look up SH Figure Arts toys. Look that up. Okay. Look up SH figure fucking arts. Look how expensive his toys are. Oh, he's getting a little anime $100 toys, huh? Yeah, he's getting the figures. The figures. So where do you draw the line then as a mother? Oh, the line is drawn at behavior. Okay, so you're saying if he fucks up. You act up, you ain't getting shit. Okay, okay. Act up. I think that's every parent though. That's every parent. Well, let me say this. My son, his iPad is like

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demolished like you can see the screen under the glass like it's demolished and i won't get him a new one because that is like his third one and i'm just like a firm believer and just like needs to learn about it you gotta take care of your shit yeah you gotta teach him to take care of your shit yeah so right now he's you know if anyone saw us out at dinner nobu per se and he's with his ipad which He wouldn't be because it's so fucked up now, which is why I like it fucked up because he won't use it as much. But if you see him with a fucked up iPad, you'd probably be like, whoa, that's fucked up. Like, yeah, he's cutting his finger. She doesn't care. She doesn't buy that kid a new iPad. But I know how to do this because I was I'm a I am Gen Z as well. Yeah. Once it's cracked, I don't want the shit. it makes me look weird playing on a crack and he's the same way he's like ah it's cracked i can't take it out the house exactly leave this shit in here and talk to me what's your favorite color nigga like can i get to know you low-key the new kids is weird like i feel like i don't really know how people are getting to know their kids yeah it's true he like goes into these waves of silence and he pop out skibbity skibbity Alpha, alpha, sigma, sigma. I'm like, bro, I don't know. I thought it was stimming at first. So you're saying your nine-year-old isn't able to have an adult conversation at all times. No, he goes in and out. Did you see the black mirror? Oh, my God. Did you see fucking black mirror? That's what it's like raising a kid. It's like you got to subscribe to the upgraded version. They'd be like, mommy, where did I come from? What was the beginning of all of this? Where do we come from? It's like, dude, are you here or not? He's at that age where I'm like, you are not a kid. You're trying to act like you don't know what's going on, but you fully know what's going on. How real can you keep it with him? I keep it as real as he asks me. If he asks me, I hide.

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have to keep it real. We have a don't ask, don't tell policy. If you don't ask me, I'm just going to tell you. I don't overshare information on him. I feel like he'll be like, Mom, what is this? I'll be like, that is whatever the fuck it is. I'll tell you what that is if you tell me what Skibbity Alpha means. I know what all of it means. I know Skibbity. I know Riz. I know Mewing. I know Sigma. I know every fucking thing. I'm like the coolest bitch. I got a Roblox. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'm legit. Damn. Okay. Not to stunt on us, but we don't have Roblox. If you can't beat them, join them. When will you parents learn? That's true. No, it's not a bad policy. Get your blocks on. Get your fucking blocks on, bitch. Get on there. You want to know what they talk about so bad. Get the fuck on Roblox. Get blocked. Get blocked. Okay, how's... Blocked. Blocked, have you passed down your synesthesia or any of your specific talents onto him? He does make music. He's making beats. He's on Fruity Loops on the iPad? No, he doesn't do that, but he did some real shit that was like, how did you figure that out so young? Basically, he was listening to a beat on his iPad, and he took my phone and opened up voice notes and was recording on my phone. a song and i was like that is some real rapper shit like how the fuck did you know that's so crazy all blue ivy can do is dance but you're saying your son can rap oh please he need to get in the field like blue ivy the fuck get up there and dance The fuck? How are his bars? How are his bars? He's rapping about chicken nuggets, Ninja Turtles, Sonic. I mean, that sounds like some of the rappers of today, to be honest. One thing about him that I will say that does remind me of myself is that I just let him do whatever. When I was a kid, I was making clothes. I was making jewelry for the neighbors.

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selling candy i was making music taking pictures i want to be a photographer i want to be a veterinarian i was a babysitter my parents just let me do whatever at no point where they like you need to pick one they never said that to me so i never did and i just have always had love for multiple things and i want to raise him the same way creatively like i don't think that i need to be like oh you're really good at this focus on this like just go whatever it's like yeah try to pick up as many marbles as you can Um, cause when you get older, all of that will open your eyes and you'll be like, well, I could do that for the rest of my life. That was something I thought was fun. It was peaceful. And it's like, you never know if you don't try per se. So I let him try whatever. I don't know what he's going to be. I guarantee though, like in my mom brain, it's like, he's either going to be a director or a comedian. I say that proudly. He's funny. He's super deadpan. But he's also very sarcastic. We don't want another Louis C.K. in our hands now. Be careful. He's a bad mamma jamma. Who is that? Who is that? He's a white comedian who got canceled. What did he say? He pulled his hog out in front of females. He pulled his... But it was consensual, though. A hog? Is that what white... You've never heard the term hog out? Bro, whoa, that shit is so fucking funny. Hog out is crazy. I just turned red. I just turned red. You can use that if you want. I'm about to use that in a bar. You mind if the hog comes out? You can use that in a bar. That's yours. I didn't come up with it. I didn't come up with it. Hog out. Yeah, actually, speaking of bars, I feel like you're sort of known for... like stretching the boundaries of making two words rhyme together oh yeah do you have and i when i was listening to the new album there's a couple i forgot i was like wow she really made that rhyme with that i don't know oh my god how we got there but you got there but i like when people do that that's my favorite thing to do is really good at doing that but like what what's an example or two from from the album where you made them two words rhyme i said seeing them run off with the style is okay

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they never say nothing i wanted to say it never gave nothing i wanted to gave it never gave that's good never gave nothing i wanted to gave it's so funny because like obviously it never gives nothing i wanted to give but i like it they so late they so late bitch is so past tense i had to say this shit in past tense it's like it never gave what it was supposed to gave yeah i get it no i get it I love shit like that, though. Yeah, like, I think it's so funny when you, like, purposely say shit wrong. You know what's fucked up? Let's go back to Lil Yachty, because I remember when he said that the cello line, and everyone was like, cello! He should have just rocked with it. He should have never said that he noticed that it was different. He should have been like, cello what? I'm not familiar with what you're talking about. Um, he said... She, she blow that dick like a cello. Oh! She stroked that dick like a cello. Okay, and he's, but because he's, that's not an instrument that you use that way. people were correcting people were like ah and i was like but you get the gist yeah the gist is god also there's a certain uh kind of understanding in rap music that you can say whatever you want and if it sounds cool then you're good if it sounds uncool then it doesn't work yeah like louane i like a long head thick red bone open up her legs I was talking to my friend about that too. I agree. I don't want to talk about nothing else. I'm very upset because I'm missing him at Madison Square Garden. I offered my spot to Jason, Team Fly Out, but he said he couldn't make it work. I don't know if I need to see him in 2025. Absolutely love Lil Wayne. I don't know if you guys can tell by my rock and hip-hop blend, but I love Lil Wayne. I meant to ask you about being on Fueled by Ramen. I need more info on that. Were you playing with Fall Out Boy? How far did this go? No, I've never met Fall Out Boy.

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What? I literally – yeah, no, I never met them. Who signed you? John Janik? I believe so. Honestly, it was like a mixture. When I signed, there was like a whole big issue going on with Atlantic. I think Atlantic was just being bought by Warner, somebody from Warner. It was a whole situation, right? It is so funny actually being able to talk about this stuff because I feel like this is when you know you're – you met your business that you know what the fuck you're talking about uh it was a whole thing whole switch up mashup situation and I got put in Fueled by Ramen and then a lot of people were well not put at Fueled by Ramen I asked to be at Fueled by Ramen yeah um and when I got there it was like you know they were still moving around a lot of people from what I know now I'm working like very closely I've heard the name John before and I've heard like a couple of names they've been in and out of meetings and things like that but I try to just focus on the people that I know are gonna work with me every day like i i know that there's like oh get to know the the top of the top but it's like yeah i need i need to know who's doing my digital marketing i need to know who you're one of those annoying ass you're one of those annoying artists super annoying i'm like i didn't know who's doing digital marketing who's doing syncs Who's doing fucking like who's who's commissioning my videos? Like, who are the people I'm going to go and ask for shit? If I'm not asking for nothing, we don't really. What are we really? You know what I mean? I need to know who's doing my merch. I need to know who's. doing the you know overseas touring this shit you just need to know because they work hand in hand with your money no that's that's good bit that's the smarter way to do it probably yeah every after like everybody else they're cool i appreciate them some people they bring in really cool opportunities and cool collabs but other than that like the core team they like work their fucking asses off and they bring in really cool shit that's like niche to the shit that i like so it's been really cool working over there i mean it's definitely so weird because i feel like

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I'm literally exactly who I thought I was going to be. Cause like when I was younger, I was, I was like, I want to be more like demanding and ask for what I want. And I feel like now I'm like that. And it just feels kind of like, that's great. I don't know. Very powerful. Yeah. It's very like powerful. It's a hard thing to do in this, in this world. Some would say she's a bitch. I would never say that because she's a bitch. She's a mother. She's a whore. I would never say that. I think that I love a boss chick, you know, and I think that it's nice. I think there's a way to ask for what you want, what you need, what you deserve as a person without being a bitch. And being mean. Sometimes. But sometimes. Maybe you haven't. Sometimes. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be your project manager over there at Atlantic Records getting those phone calls. No, I honestly haven't had a bad phone call in years. That's good. That's mature. But there were some bad ones. I bet. Yeah, I bet there were. I bet there were. I don't know. Have you thrown a phone before? At somebody? No, no, no, no, no. Not Naomi Campbell style. I just mean like, have you thrown a phone against the wall in anger? Oh, yeah, of course. Same. But it wasn't. It wasn't because of a phone call, though. Oh, you were just. It was because something I read. I read some shit, and I was like. You threw the T-Mobile sidekick against the wall. Yeah. So you read that. You read an Azalea Banks tweet, and you said, oh, hell no. I don't know. Right. Right. No. But so actually. This is going to be... You guys are my favorite, actually. This might be my favorite podcast. I'm not going to lie. Y'all getting right to it. I don't know whether I fucking hate Azalea Banks or if, like, I fuck with Azalea Banks because she does really hot takes. Who the fuck she said did I look like, bro? What the fuck, bitch? Are you kidding me? Who'd she say that you look like? What's that man's name? Gene Simmons? Gene Simmons? Gene Simmons?

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no so hold on so azalea bank said you look like kisses gene simmons yes bitch and then then went on to be like though bro bro the bitch crazy but like she crazy but bro she be making the most valid points she went on to be like rico nasty is like the original look up recent azalea banks about me she got real nice yeah that's that's her thing she's This is how she keeps herself relevant, because she's nice. I'm talking about her. I'm talking about her nice. The next time she speak about me, she's going to be some awful shit. It's going to be some bottom. It's just like Kanye. Hail Hitler. Just kidding. Hail Hitler again. Just kidding. No, I think that Azalea Banks is one of our great treasures. I personally now, I think that... azalea banks is not as bad as no definitely not she is not she's no azalea is a gift i like that she goes to like countries that are known for blood diamonds to get her bag hitler stuff you guys aren't talking about the cousin stuff that doesn't like well he said the he said the cousin stuff was about keem and kendrick which makes it funny He said he was just playing. It was about Keith and Kendrick. He was just playing. I believe that Kanye sucked his cousin dick for sure. Me too. And it was brave of him to admit that. Brave of him to admit it. It explains a lot. He needs to see a doctor. They need to take the microphone. He needs to see somebody. That's like alarming. That's like scary. That's like, bro, you either not all the way there or. you are all the way there and you think that this type of shit is funny. It's not funny. There's like a kid battling with that shit somewhere. Yeah, yeah. Unfortunately, it's kind of funny. Unfortunately, it's kind of funny, but I don't want to think it's funny. It's only funny because Kanye West admitted that he was gay and he was the epitome of being a gay fish joke on South Park. That's why it's funny. But it is sexual abuse at a young age. It's not funny. That's true. It's not funny. You're right.

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this happened to me like why would he make that like why would he but it's really funny if it's about kendrick and keem because they're actually cousins that's no and and it's not funny if it's about that because now you're just trying to insert yourself it could have been about him and drake what leave it alone like chill hey we don't do that on this podcast nah nokia best song of the year don't do y'all like drake no i'm i'm it's an ongoing joke on this podcast are you a drake fan well sure I wouldn't say that I'm... I'm a Barb. Chris is OVO. I'm OVO, Chris, and this is Jason. He's a Barb. Y'all are young money. I like young money. She was on the cover of Vogue. Nicki Minaj is the best female rapper ever. See, a lot of people say that, but I don't think about her that much, to be honest. I know she's popular, but have you met her? I don't have to meet her. Great answer. demeanor to know her music is the best no i wasn't i wasn't saying that's what you needed to prove it i was just wondering if you guys broke bread bro no no i'm just wondering if you've ever had a little kiki with her she's terrifying i genuinely feel like she to me is like one of those people that i i just love musically i think she's contributed so much to music and i feel like i can see how she feels like she never got her flowers i don't know why i could see it i could see it i could feel it no i agree i relate to it in a way even though it's not on such a huge scale and i i i feel her like i feel it it's like fuck i didn't get my i wasn't done and you guys are pushing me out and trying to kick me out of the shit i built and not giving me my flowers and being disrespectful it's like i i get it but outside of that because the like i don't want to wake up the barbs outside of that you're talking lyricism and you're talking like wordplay bro you can go on my instagram right now i don't follow nikki minaj but if you give me a song i know that bitch word for word it's just like she's an amazing musician she's literally the she's literally the best female rapper i don't care i don't care she's literally the best like it's she's the best she's the best i don't

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we can talk about her personality and all that other shit later but really talking about that young money run like that shit was like yeah you guys aren't I agree I didn't know you were such a young money stan I grew up during like one of the most incredible runs of all time With Weezy and Drake and Nikki all together. After that, then I was raised by Chief Keefe and Young Thug, so I'm very much like... Yeah, you're twisted. I'm twisted. Are you a Birdman fan? Rest in peace to Ms. Gladys. Yeah, I love Birdman. I do. I love Birdman. I feel like... I was hoping you were going to do your impression of him when he went on The Breakfast Club and threatened Charlaman. Y'all finish y'all done. On a tree, y'all. On a tree, y'all. And that's the motherfucker I'm scared of. A bald head man that's chosen to be bald with tattoos on his bald? That's why I've kept the tattoos away. I heard a good story about him, actually. He hires a barber to come to his house once a week and give him a quote-unquote haircut, even though he has no hair. And all his friends, everyone has to pretend like it's normal. And he's giving him a real haircut. And he sits there for an hour, lines him up, does the whole thing. That's like my dad. That's like my dad. My dad still shaves his head. And I'm like, you're bald. Ain't nothing to cut, bro. We're doing it for fun. Muscle memory. Muscle memory. Yeah, baby muscle memory. It's a routine. It's healthy to keep a habit and routine going as we get older. You guys do. And let's actually talk about it. The guy that I'm talking to now, he has a skin to care. Oh, so you're dating a guy. Is he bisexual or he's straight? Okay, he's straight. All right, yeah, I didn't know. Is the routine a little too involved? Routine-y? Is that the issue? I love it. What kind of products is he using, though? I think I love dating a bad bitch. I'm not going to lie. I love dating a person that takes care of themselves. I hear that from my wife every day. I think it's cool. Being called a bad bitch puts a pep in my step. Yeah, I like that. You get to share your serums? He put me on to so many. Yeah, sharing serums.

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So what kind of vitamin C serum is he using? He's using the snail stuff. Oh, he's into snail stuff? A little freak. He's in Korea. You better check who he dated before because somebody put him on. I need to look at... Oh, I know. I was thinking that. Some Asian baddie put him on to that. No, it was probably like a Spanish baddie. Yeah. He read about it on Nylon. Okay, so... That was so funny. Oh, my God. Okay, so you like that he has a long... Is it a morning and a night routine? Yep. Okay. You said you met him IRL. You meet him at Sephora. Where did you meet this guy at? Ralph's Beauty Isle? I met him at Community Goods. He's putting on a little lip kit. Pet store. You met him at the pet store? He was getting an iguana and you just rolled up one? I was getting a jumping spider. Hold on. For you or your son. You're telling me this guy isn't white and you met him at a pet store? Yeah. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. He's a little skater boy. Okay. Like a professional or just for fun? No. He literally doesn't even skate anymore. So is he into Liz Olds and stuff? How old is he? Liz Olds. Is he into Liz Olds and stuff? It's so crazy. Hold on, hold on. You don't need to give us the full details, but what does he do for a living? What industry is he in, if you don't mind me asking? And I hope it's not bartending. No. He's a nail tech. Nope. And he's not a rapper. He doesn't make music. He's not an athlete. He's a civilian. He is a regular person. He's a regular person. You dated an athlete before? Have you dated an athlete before? No. Yeah, that doesn't really seem like you're... I've never dated a rapper, and I've never dated an athlete. What? No, I've never. Wow. That's powerful. I don't want to. I don't. You're different. Right. Okay. Oh, I'm so different. I don't want to, I don't want to date anybody that like has the same job as me or like, I don't know. I don't want to date anyone who has to do social media as a job. Like, cause this for me is like, you know, I have some. Let's wrap this up, Jason. Let's wrap this up.

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there's nothing wrong with that nothing wrong with that i think that's i think that's smart actually i think that's healthy that's healthy yeah and sometimes athletes they fall into the same category as rappers or musicians because they got to be gone they have to do they're doing a lot of shit and they're just as crazy oh they're crazier i would say yeah they're crazier um all right rico thank you Thank you, guys. When you come back on, we need to talk about Gnomes and Death Cab and some other things. Oh, my God. Death Cab for Cutie. That guy would be working out, too. Yeah. Shout out to Ben, listener. He listens to the show. He's been on the show before. I love him. I love you, Ben. We can probably hook you guys up. Ben's listening right now. You guys can go do a little ultra marathon or something like that. Something light. We should go for a hike, Ben. A hundred mile loop. Something light. I'm a huge fan. Damn, you're so L.A. now. Okay, so the album is out now, right? I'll get that. Hell yeah. Go stream it. And when does the show come out? Oh, the show is coming out probably like next year. You know how the TV shit is. They shoot whatever the fuck and then figure that out later. But the tour is in like September. So Save Your Coins is going to be a rager. I mean, you heard the metal shit on there. So it's going to be like. You already know what it is. Yeah. We're ready. We're ready for it. Yeah. Got it. All right. Thank you so much. We'll see you in the fucking pit, bro. We'll see you in the pit. I'm going to be in a pit. Yeah, I'll see you in the pit. Bye.

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