078. - Brynn Wallner

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Buongiorno. Buongiorno. How are you, Big Dog? Big Dog is okay. You know, I'm just getting smoked out over here in Cali. Loked out or smoked out? Sadly, it is only smoked out, and it is not because of Cali Kush. It is because of the hundreds of wildfires ravaging my homeland. You know, Jason, since Kelly is my adopted homeland, I'm also suffering from this same affliction. And man, it is truly post-apocalyptic out here. It's fucked up, man. It was supposed to be just [redacted address] God intended it to be. And now we're in the 70s. We're overcast all day. I walk outside and it smells like TJ's cooking up a hot mesquite grill every 24 hours a day here in Glendale. It reminds me of actually, it reminds me of like being in the Southwest, you know, in like Santa Fe and stuff. In the American Southwest? The American Southwest, yes. Yeah, I'm getting Santa Fe feels. When are we going to get the sun back, though? Because this is not really working for me. Well, I'm glad you asked me, the fire starter. Look, if you're going to call me Nigel Godrich when I say I think it will sound okay, then I think I can ask you about weather stuff. Yeah, you're over here saying I have to record today's episode poolside because my significant other is getting a massage in the room. I think it will sound fine. Am I wrong? How does it sound? What is that based off of? Why do you think it will sound fine? Well, I went to a remote corner where there's no people. And luckily, because it's overcast today, there's no one out here. The pool vibe is not popping. Pool vibe is just me. Well, you know, luckily, since I am the Nigel Godrich of audio, of Apple Podcasts and Spotify, I will be able to use my years of expertise to hopefully remove.

the uh the sounds of hollywood behind you the the chirping birds the wind blowing you know the the honking of horns can i ask you a question um bro lay it on me so like i thought with stuff like this like the the winds come and like blow it away but the winds also obviously encourage fire right so like what what happens here That is a good question because wind soon come and wind can taketh away and giveth life to the fire. A little bit of oxygen and you are feeding those flames, but if you get enough of a blast, of a gush, if we had a tornado popping, that might be enough oxygen to put these flames out. Right now, any type of normal California wind is just going to make the fire even more lit. How? God damn it. This is the Travis Scott McDonald's fire. He started this to promote his new collaboration. Yeah, what will they think of next? Man, it's really weird though, honestly. It's really weird being here. I haven't seen the ash on my car or anything, but I'm hearing a lot of tales of that kind of shit. Yeah, there hasn't been this much ash on the bends since you were breaking down a QP on a daily basis. Catch me breaking down a QP on the trunk of the 300. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's usually swisher guts, but now it is a fine California pine tree ash. Just the earth. But yeah, I haven't got any ash. Is it worse in Glendale? Are you closer? i think i am closer yeah i mean i think it's just fucked everywhere it's not as bad as san francisco though or or you know the northwest in general i think that is super fucked like everyone in yeah norcal oregon you know all the pictures i've seen it like it like the sky the sky here is just kind of overcast and the sky there is like dead ass like ketchup color red no it's

the moon i mean the moon here looks crazy too like when i was there i got up early this morning to go to the trainer and it was insane it was like a red moon bro i mean if you think about it the moon is already pretty fucking crazy but now with all of these fires it's really fucking crazy damn really makes you think tj yeah so uh you know otherwise how how's hotel life going i mean hotel life is good cb checks in cb checks in i mean I think there's been an uptick in residence because I'm having a little harder time booking the gym for my Peloton, but otherwise, it's looking good, man. Damn. We're all doing the work, aren't we? Jason, I've been glued to my machine all day, and then I had to dive outside by the pool to record this podcast with you. I'm busier than I ever have been. I earned this lifestyle. Okay, loser? Okay, yeah. There's even more construction going on at my house today. is there yeah you know we're getting stucco going on but i had i talked to my man and i was able to negotiate a peace treaty with with the sanding the sanding of the exterior but it was it was a bummer um bay bay did not tell me that that stucco man was coming today so you know i mean i think it's i think honestly we're gonna have to take some of these big anchor bucks it might be time to invest in how long gone studios um well i mean yeah i mean i'm down to do that absolutely but also no you know we don't we don't podcast together anyway and no guests are going to come to it because of the uh you know covet nine eight nine eight first of all kavi nine eight unless we only book spreaders but it's first of all i think this is a i think this is mostly spreader guest podcast so i don't i don't really see an issue but i would think it i mean Maybe we could pitch an addition to your home. You know what I mean? More like a permanent area, not just like a rental space. Okay. We pitch it to my girlfriend, you mean? Or we pitch it to a brand to raise the capital to break ground. Do you think Monster Energy would want to get involved with something like that? Or do you think it's a little bit out of the scope of what their customer... You know, I think where we should start first is just getting a Soho House membership complimentary.

And then we take advantage of their meager podcast recording capabilities, which I assume is just like a room full of Voss water and then a microphone that's worse than we have. That's all I need to absolutely black out in the booth, though. I know, I know. I've spit classic bars with less, Jason. It is true. And it would be great to, instead of recording in my house, to drive 45 minutes to the Soho house. And then walk around a valet with a mask on for 10 minutes. The fact that neither of us have ever been offered a free Soho House membership is honestly criminal. Well, I think we're too old is the problem. They don't really hand out Soho House memberships unless you're in the 27 and under club or whatever the cutoff is. You get a substantial discount if you're under 25 or something like that. And then anyone over that age, they're already up to their ears and old shitty guys. I'm not really sure. That seems ageist to me. It is ageist. And ageism is chill at Soho House. I mean, you're 40, which is, I know, pushing it, but you're not a banker or anything. You don't even own pants. Right. And you also don't have a membership, dumbass. no i know i don't have membership either i'm i'm saying this as a duo i'm a lot more likely to get a membership than you how does that make you feel though despite my my despite my dungaree advanced age despite your advanced age and your shorts i don't know if you're more i don't know if you're more like this is also a battle to the bottom like how when when are you're you're you're how old are you again 37 okay for the next 48 hours Yeah, that's right. Your birthday is coming up, and then you're going to be 38, which is basically 40. Because once you hit 35, then you're like, all right, I'm on the downward spiral. No trend. I don't know if that's true. Oh, my God, dude. That was really good. And then when you're 37, you're like, all right, I'm in my mid to late 30s. You can say I'm in my mid to late 30s when you're 37. And then in two days,

you will have to be in your late 30s, which is basically just 40. I like listening to you justify this in your own mind in real time. It's really doing it for me. It's actually more of you justifying it in your mind. I have come to peace with my splinter-like age and wisdom, whereas you... I'm just saying I'm looking forward to having a front row seat to the... the breakdown uh that you inevitably will take i mean if i looked for mentally and physically mentally and physically i'm i'm tiptoe you know what i mean so i'm not really i'm not really that concerned if i'm being totally honest with you but yeah but that's because that's because you're 37 but you know oh i see In a couple days, you're going to start experiencing hair loss. You might even have to start wearing glasses to read. Oh, wait. Oh, sorry. Never mind. Sorry. I was talking about what happened when you turned 28, not 38. But yeah, maybe you'll have some pains when you're doing your high-intensity training. Maybe your ankles and legs and tendons and things will start needing to be massaged and rubbed more often as you hit. That older... Wait, I'm sorry. That's been happening for decades now. Jason, did you snort Adderall before we recorded this podcast? No, I haven't even had a coffee since this morning. Why are you mad, though? I'm not mad. I am simply... You are hitting balls into my court, and I'm just hitting them right back to you. I'm not sending shots at you any more vicious than you are sending them at me. I'll send somebody over to fucking Glendale to do my light work for me, bro. It's time to take a look in the mirror, Chris. I look in the mirror multiple times a day, okay? Yeah, and you should see something that resembles a roasted man because you've been roasted. You're a little roasted ass. I'm getting roasted on my own podcast by a California Raisin head-ass 40-year-old man. Look, what we need to talk about is

Have you sorted the menu for my birthday weekend? Yes, m'lady. Yes, I think the menu is sorted. I will need you to be on snack patrol. Can you handle that? Yeah, of course. That's why I'm good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'll handle all the menu for you, but for the snackables, the in-between meals, the tortilla chips that are made out of asparagus and dehydrated lemon peels and stuff. Can you explain a meal to me? Because I understand a snack, but we need to talk about those chips you found. The chicas? Chica. They're so good. Chicas will be coming into your birthday mouth within the next 24 hours. You know that, right? But what's really Gucci with those? How did you find them? Did you just spot them on the shelf and cop? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was just a blind Whole Foods cop. Guys, this is not paid for by Big Tortilla Chip. This is literally an endorsement from How Long Gone. Chica's Tortilla Chips, best in the game. Yeah, if you're in Whole Foods or another fine grocer and you see a bag of Chica's Tortilla Chips, it's a cop on site. I was trying to explain or figure out what it was. They have a little bit of an odd sweetness to it, and it reminded me of... Some of the vibe of when back in the day you go to a Mexican restaurant and the janky dessert would just be tortilla chips that are covered in cinnamon and sugar that you may have had before. And they kind of gave me a little... Like a deconstructed churro. A deconstructed churro, yes. And they kind of had a little bit of that sweetness going on, but it is a savory chip. It has a nice crunch to it, nice spring to it. Great salt level. It can hold up a dip, you know what I mean? It can support the weight of a dense hummus or guacamole. Or a thick guac. Yeah, so, you know, we're going to do a Suen bowl for you off rip. We're going to do a Mexican lunch that will have a chicas and guac. There is going to be probably a chilaquile situation, maybe an enchilada, you know, some type of larger format.

There could be soyrizo involved for you. Who knows? I don't love the soyrizo. Okay, okay. No soyrizo. What are we going to do for exercise? Are you bringing the kettlebell? I'll bring both bells for you. Is that going to slow the Tesla down, or do you think that'll be okay? We are not taking the Tesla. Oh, wow. I thought I was a VIP, but I guess not. Well, you know, with all of us in the car with our... With our goods and clothes and all that stuff, we're not going to fit. And there's going to be a dog. Margo's going to be there, too. Oh, my God. Yeah, and also there's no supercharging station. Oh, there's no charging. I didn't even think about that. I always forget about that. When you're a man in the woods. Oh, man of the woods in stores soon. It sounds like you're starting to regret this trip, and I like that. No, I'm going to have a great time. I love when TJ is my little chef. I love being weighed on hand and foot by this big old bitch. You're a nasty fucking slut. We do have a guest today, and I am fucking bloody excited. You know what I mean? It was about time we got the god on. It's overdue. I mean, Bryn Walner, a.k.a. Bryn Trill, who you definitely know from the World Wide Web. is just honestly brilliant. She makes me laugh. She's very smart. She's a great writer. She's a good friend. A real salt of the earth gal. She's a real salt of the earth gal. She's from Florida, which we'll obviously talk about. Well, she's not from Florida. Her mom lives in Florida, which is basically being from Florida. And she's also my neighbor in the East Village neighborhood of New York City. Ex-neighbor. Bitch, no. Don't say that. But she used to live in Cali. She's a Cali chick deep down, I think. You know what I mean? We've had a lot of losers and duds on this show. She's a guaranteed non-loser and dud. It's true, honestly. It's funny because when you're close to non-duds, you kind of start to forget about them. That's the overarching theme for this episode. I like that.

Yeah, so let's give Bryn Trill a little call and we'll really start to chop it up with her. You know what I'm saying? King! Well, Bryn, I feel like it's just really nice to reconnect. I feel grounded just being on the phone with you. Well, I am a Taurus. Shut up. You know the fucking words. I'm trying to get a sponsorship. Who are you approaching? What kind of sponsorship? Like an AA sponsor? No, we already covered that, babe. Not for me. I've been seeing a lot about this brand called Kin Euphoric. Oh, I'm familiar. I've been to multiple Kin Euphoric activations. I feel like you did the graphic design for that. I mean, first of all, fuck you. No, I mean, have you tried it before? I haven't, but I see it everywhere. I'm like, damn, I got to try that. It's definitely a small little can that does nothing when you drink it. So it's perfect. Oh, it's the drink. It's like a recess. Are you Googling? No, no, no. I'm just talking. I'm going off dome. Yeah, it's a small can. It's like when you get the half Diet Cokes on set, Chris. Okay. And it has... There's no alcohol in it. There's no CBD in it, but there's just like... different little adaptogens that help you, you know, enhance your euphoria. But I don't know how many of them that you have to chug to really get a head change. I thought euphoria was that teen sex show. Oh, it is. My favorite show. I'm obsessed with that show. Bryn, did you just discover euphoria, the television show from a year and a half ago? No, I obviously didn't just discover it. Like, I don't live under a rock. Did you just tweet about it yesterday? No, I watched the first episode a while ago, and I was like, this is way too dark for me. And I feel like I'm not sheltered by any means, and I have a dark sense of humor, but watching that, I was just like, I can't do this. But somebody told me to push screw, so I've just been watching it, and it's my new favorite show. I mean, it's a sick-ass show. Hopefully it does come back. Did you watch it, TJ?

yeah i watched it just to you know i have to pay attention to cultural um yeah it comes with the territory it's the freaking you know it's part of the zeitgeist baby i gotta pay attention plus you know it's just full of team hotties i am a zendaya stan so i'm surprised i didn't watch it but did you see those hot selfies she just posted it's crazy she's hot you're like got me my gasolina what up my name is chris Chris, I didn't know that you're a Zendaya fan. I love Zendaya. Zendaya fine as hell. Zendaya also, I mean, I don't understand what's going on. Zendaya was dating some guy named Jacob Elordi, who I've never really heard of. He's in Euphoria. I thought he was on something called, like, something with kissing in the title on Netflix. Oh, like Kissing Booth or something? Yeah, but now that motherfucker's in New York wearing Hawaiian shirts holding hands with Kaia Gerber. So it's like... What's really good, baby? Damn. Kaya's in NYC? They're all at Lucien. It's all been, it's crazy. Kaya, Bella, they're all there. I live right around the corner from Lucien and I always walk running past it. But I never see those. Those A-listers. Well, you're not going at the right time, dumbass. Obviously. I'm like, this is a bust. A lot of people have been tweeting about this, about Lucien lately. Is that the boa of New York right now? Boa? No, it's like, what's that dusty-ass French restaurant that used to be a party spot going towards Echo Park? Oh, Tay? T-A-I-X? Oh, yeah. It's that with slightly better bad food. So where the sons and daughters of actors and actresses from the 80s and 90s go to look poor and do coke? Yeah, I mean, how would you describe it, Bryn? Well, first of all, it's tiny. And especially now, you can't go inside. So I feel like the jig, the gig, whatever, is up because it's like... Brother, the gig is up.

I gave it up, brother. Right, right, right. So they weren't able to pivot in COVID is what we're saying. No, I don't know. They pivoted and they have outdoor seating now. And I feel like that's like the whole point of it is you're supposed to be on the outside and they're supposed to be on the inside. And now it's like on full display. But it's still cool. I don't know. It's like hot riders. Yeah, they're all hotties. It's just a New York version of Tay is going to be writers, not the sons and daughters of actors who live in Brentwood. You know what I mean? Got it. So it's people who don't have as much money. Got it. Exactly, exactly. Their parents are rich, but it's a lesser East Coast rich. It sounds like a really cool vibe, Chris. More intelligent. You know, the Saddle Ranch has had to pivot to an outdoor dining experience as well, and I think it's actually come alive. Jason and I are going to go to Saddle Ranch to do a full report. That's the next spread spot. Boa is out. Bye-bye, Boa. We're making Saddle Ranch cool for the spreader community. What if Bryn just hung up? Bryn, what's the deal? Brynn, what's the deal? Give us a full New York scene report because Big CB hasn't been on the streets in a while, and I need someone I trust to kind of give me a play-by-play. Brynn, show me your NYC. I feel like I don't leave the 10-block radius that has the East Village, NoHo, SoHo cost. That's right. Maybe neither do I. You already know where I'm going. I already know you've been in LA since March. Gotta get that New York card revoked. Don't bacon, egg, and cheese me, Brent. Yeah, how many more months until Chris is not able to renew and he has to go back to the NYC DMV and take a new photo in person? He has to take the test all over again. Alright, son, these are the beef and broccolis. This is the chopped cheese.

What's your favorite Mobb Deep song? There's no wrong answers. I don't think I know one, to be honest. No, Chris, we miss you. The East Village misses you. You know, they're going to open up a Popeye's on 1st Avenue between 2nd and 3rd. And I'm like, what's going on here? So the scene report is they're opening a Popeye's. How is East Village Organic, our local grocer, doing? It's great. Ali was very happy to see me. One of the East Village Organic Juice guys moved to LA and I was like, damn, sell out. Damn, this is the reporting that I needed. No, I act like I don't want to move to LA. Which I totally do. So which sweet green are you getting your meals at right now? I cook. Thank you, Alison Roman. No, for real, I didn't cook before, and then I tried out an Alison Roman recipe, and I was like, oh, word? Which recipe did you cook? The stew, which is not the name of your old podcast. Yeah, and thank you, our listeners at home. She pointed at me like this when she said the stew, and it was very nice. So you made the garbanzo bean stew thingy that everyone's nutting over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that one with like turmeric and I get it everywhere. That doesn't sound that good. Stew doesn't appeal to me at all. Like a hot slop does not sound delicious to me right now. What do you eat? Like Larabars? No. Yeah, Chris is not a hearty stew eater. He won't even do a chowder. Somebody write me to the best stew eater. I think Chris will have the celery soup from the Sunset Tower, and that's where his bowl eating ends. What did they have at Sunset Tower the night that you said it was a $40 chili? No, their turkey chili is $38. And then we were talking about what is up with this turkey chili? Why does it cost $38? And Chris is like, does it come with all the accoutrements and stuff? And the waiter is like, yes, it does.

And then that was it. But he said that it's very good turkey chili. He said, guys, that turkey chili is bomb. That's what he said, I think. Chris is like, extra cheese. Yeah, the only thing that Chris orders when we go to restaurants is just shrimp cocktail. That's the majority of the food that he puts in his mouth. I have a hot girl diet. Well, I'm trying to get on that Sakura Life, but they won't hit me back. I want to help them break into the men's market, but they don't seem interested. So, Sakura Life is still leaving you on red, Chris? Yeah. Brynn, have you ever had Sakura Life? No, but I feel like hot blonde girls like it, so I should get into it. You should. That's exactly my thinking. Brynn, what is your sweet green order? I customized the guacamole greens. Okay, go on. I get, you know, it's honestly been months since I've been to Sweetgreen because I learned how to cook thanks to Alison Roman. You just have a bucket of stew that you slop out of breakfast, lunch, and dinner? I'm like, eat up, bitch. No, I... Bren, Bren, Bren, Bren, Bren. Yeah, fellas, fellas. Stay where you are right now. This is the best you've ever sounded. I'm right next to the Wi-Fi box. Yeah, make sure, and you don't have to walk around or pace, you know, staying in one place, zen out. This isn't a work call, Bren. I like to walk and talk. It's like Steve Jobs, like get in the zone. Look, this isn't West Wing, Bryn. This is a podcast where we're recording on AirPods. So we can't do a walk with me. Okay, I'm standing still. Yeah, Stan, don't sit either. You can do a headstand if you'd like. Fellas, fellas. Is it gay to have a podcast? Bryn, so I...

It is, but Brynn, I've noticed you've been going, I've been seeing some virality on Twitter lately. I know, what's with that? Is it because you follow me? I think it helps, but I do think that you have, I feel like you've stepped up your game and really let it spray, and we really appreciate that here at How Long Gone Industries. Chris calls that the black effect. If you run in circles with him long enough, your tweets will start doing triple digis. I think we need to rebrand and workshop that name. I don't know what you mean by that. You'll be doing better numbers than Chris in like three weeks, I call it. It's exponential growth. Why do you think you're doing so well, Bryn? Well, I think I'm feeding the machine more. I feel like the more you give, the more you get. And like, I don't know. Do you mean like your cadence of content is more frequent? Is that what you mean? Well, yeah, I think it's more frequent. And I also think just like algorithmically, I'm just like, because I went out the other day, but I was wearing a mask. My friend is like, Bryn has the best Twitter, and he's like my PR person whenever I go to Dime Square. And this guy was like, wait, are you Bryn Trill? And I was like, yes. And he's like, I don't follow you, but the algorithm always sends me tweets. And I'm like, oh, okay. I don't know. That actually is the Chris Black effect, I believe. Chris, what are some tips to ride that algo wave? If I'm trying to get more viral. I mean, dead ass fam. Absolutely no joke. I laugh out loud at a Brent Trill tweet at least once a day. Same AF. Damn. I make you guys lol. But I really am looking for tips on how to play the algorithm or game the system to get better numbies. I think Brent has got the secret. You just let it spray on the platform and if you build it, they will come. That's great advice. Let it spray on the platform. Chris's advice is only do tweets before 4am. That's his game plan.

So people in Bangladesh and Australia are really receiving it. Jason, first of all, I operate in East Coast time, no matter where I am, because I'm a real one. And that's the world clock. This is how you win, Chris. So New York is like a cool city? Yeah, just like the way the intersection of First Street and First Avenue is the center of the world. Which is a thing I'm still trying to wrap my head around. Give me Wilshire any day of the week. It is where Lucian is. Jason just doesn't understand the hustle. You know what I mean, Bryn? Yeah, I mean, I don't know. We briefly worked together in our past. And you know he didn't do shit. He was sitting around stoned, looking dumb. He would be like sweating buckets because he had to just bike right on a fixie from Outwater Village to downtown LA. Hell yeah. And then I would show up and then I would be stoned, sweaty, and looking dumb. there was no there was no shower at the dfm world headquarters i'll be like yo do you guys have any more keen keen sandals around i want to talk about working with jason though because i have some challenges obviously as his boss here on the podcast so i wonder you know as like an equal i wonder if it was different or was he your boss or were you his boss like explain the hierarchy He was just a freelancer, so he would come in and work on certain projects with me. We never overlapped as official co-workers. Right, Jason? That is correct. That's probably the best way to deal with him, I would say. Yeah, in moderation, we would crack some jokes. He would be like, oh, is that a Fade to Mind sticker on your MacBook? And I'm like, yeah. And I'm like, Real Recognize Real. We all went to the opening ceremony, Coachella party, DJed by Sky Ferreira. And then we're like, friends for life? Yeah, I was like, damn, Sky Fix of the Deep Cuts. I don't even know what Fade to Mind is, though. I just had the sticker. That's cool.

Chris is my boss now, and he's having some troubles with me. He has a little problem with authority, which I'm sure you're familiar with, and he just has a little bit of a problem. His timelines are a little fucked up. He moves a little slower than I would like. You're on New York time. I think it's the Cali Kush affecting his output. Are you hitting the bong every day? He's hitting the Telfar runs pretty hard before he comes into the office. No, no, no. The Telfar doesn't get sparked until after the sun goes down, bro. And it is the smallest, it is the tiniest Telfar bag that I am blazing. It's not the big one. And also, just for the record, I can fit inside of the big one if I really want to. Yeah, but I think I'm glad, Brynn, we're in like a special place, you and I, as people who've worked with Jason, because, you know, most of those people are just like DJ bros, but you and I are like real working people. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're working people. I've worked with you, Chris. I love working with you, Brynn. I honestly, you're better than Jason at most tasks, so it's pretty cool. Well, I just have that like strict corporate training. This has been a really fun podcast so far, guys. Jason doesn't know how to switch into corporate thug mode, which I do like about him as a friend, but when it's time to really drop the hammer and get that paper, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you gotta be on CB time. I mean, it's real. I mean, he brings other stuff to the table, though. He makes life enjoyable, and that's what really counts. Graphic design is my passion. Yeah, that's true. And he also, he keeps the commissary at the How Long Gone Industries offices stocked with snacks. He brokered a great kind bar deal for us. Yeah, Chris. I mean, someone's got to make this kombucha on tap flow. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. When I said, Jason, I need a hard booch for our guests, he said, how high? Like, I got you, fam. He's like GT's brown bottle.

You're like, ooh, 0.3 alcohol by volume. Not for me. Jason's been hitting the hard booge. He really likes it. I actually don't like it. I mean, if I have to, I will. But I think all kombucha is canceled for me. I don't see a world where I need to drink kombucha anymore. It doesn't do shit for me. Society has progressed beyond the need for GT Dave and his little wild thought party. And his little racket he's got running. He's so rich. He's very rich. I went to a vegan food festival once at the Rose Bowl. Good. And I'm the one who gets made fun of on this podcast. They had like a full, it was like going to a beer festival, but it was only kombucha. Whoa. And you're sober. You can't even turn up. I mean, kombuchas also taste bad. Like, I've never liked it. And I like to experiment with new flavors, obviously, as you know. But that just didn't do much for me. Chris, how were the kombucha sluts looking? It was mostly, honestly, the kombucha sluts were dudes that look like beer brewers, but it was just kombucha instead. That's what I'm talking about. Like Pacific Northwest type, like dusty, dusty, dusty ass motherfuckers. But dusty, but hot. Not that hot. I mean, GT himself, I think, was in the building, to be honest. GT in the building. You guys got to get him on the pod. GT was really good. Believe me, Bryn. With fermentation, bro. Yeah. Bryn, do you have any suggestions for the pod of people we should have on? Can you get Justin Bieber? Sky Ferreira. Well, she was on another pod, but yeah. She would not do this podcast for sure. I don't know about that. She hasn't seen me yet, so give her a chance. Wow. Yeah, she's seen you. Don't worry. Wait, are you in Chateau Marmont, Chris? No, I'm at Villa Carlisle. Oh, yeah. Oh, you know. I see it. Oh, damn. You and Kami just chilling by the pool. He's at the Mark by Mark Jacobs version. He's at the diffusion pool.

It's not quite there yet. I'm in Chateau Vermont for Zara. You know what I'm saying? They checked his followers and it was like, let's send him to the villa instead. You're like, I'm at the CVS brand or the generic brand, Chateau Vermont. Look, I like it. I like it. Look, I'm doing better than both of you idiots. The Walgreens aspirin is just as good as the Advil. It's the same core ingredients, okay? Yeah, so many guts. We have Cactus Jack at home. You don't need to go to the Cactus Jack. Yeah, so Brynn, you don't really eat meat too much, and you're also kind of a sober king, just like Chris, right? Straight up. Although, I just don't like bacon. But I'll eat a burger every now and then. And a chicken. I'll eat a chicken. Okay, what about bacon are you not fucking with? Well, I just don't like the texture. I'm irked by the American obsession to put bacon on everything. That's how Jason got started as an amateur chef, though. What do you mean? Bacon? He added bacon to a Bloody Mary and it was kind of like a movie from then on out. Isn't it cool that he did that though? Have you ever heard of gastropubs? That was me. Bottomless mimosas. That makes sense. And I also don't like the baconification of American cooking. But I'm glad that you will suck down a burger though. Oh, you know, in and out. So you have not had the Cactus Jack meal? Not yet, but I probably will just for the gag. It's a prank, bro. It's a prank. We should have sent you to try it on the podcast. That was a mistake on our part. I'm actually planning on doing it. Chris, maybe this weekend we can do it. We can swing by the drive-thru.

So Jason has a new idea, too, where he wants to mix lean with harmless harvest coconut water. Wow. We still drinking lean? Well, we aren't. Jason wants to. I'll do it as a prank, but I don't really like it, actually. I don't like the way it makes my temple behave. You're like, what up? My name is Jason Stewart. This is Vice Media, and we're going to try Lean with coconut water. I'm going to go to the Brintrill Fashion Show and sit front row on Lean, and here's what happened. What up? I am Gia, the label, presents. What's up with I am Gia, the label? What isn't up with them? What does that sound, by the way, Chris? Sorry, I think the sprinkler system just came on. Oh, great. I think it's quiet now. It's quieter now, right? Trouble in paradise. Trouble in paradise. Chris said there'd be nothing wrong with going outside. Do you want to know why Chris is sitting outside, though, Bryn? Why? His life partner is getting a massage in the room right now. Oh, wow. How jealous of LA life are you right now? I'm pretty jealous. I won't lie. New York is really fun right now. I'm having a blast. What are you doing? What are you doing besides seeing hotties on the street and walking your doggo? I mean, that's the majority of it. Well, doggoes rule. Doggoes rule. Dog, honey. I've been painting a lot. I mean, that's not New York City culture, but right now I'm painting. Somebody commissioned, you know that rapper Jack Harlow? Unfortunately. The other Cactus Jack? Yeah, we're familiar. The generic friend Jack. It's him and Lou Williams. He's on the Los Angeles Clippers. Yeah, we're booming out in South Gwinnett like Lou Will. Oh, okay, bars. It's a classic Drake bar, but Lou Will is from South Gwinnett. That's Atlanta adjacent. You know South Gwinnett.

That's also where I believe the rap trio Migos also graduated from. Well, maybe not graduated, but they went there. Migo graduated. Chris, I didn't know that you know so many slime. This is pretty impressive. What do you mean, bro? I feel like that's part of his brand. What? Is Noah having bars? You know slang and you're from Atlanta. You know, the vibes. I think my brand is robust. But he's also wider than a damn Subaru at the same time. Back that thing up. I feel like, Chris, you contain multitudes. That's count. I do. I think that sometimes that is good and sometimes that's not great. But yeah, I do know a Drake song. Are you painting... Rapper Jack. Rapper, I use the term loosely. He looks like a guy who works at Pakistan, if we're being honest. He's like, what do you want in your Kith milkshake? He's 100%. We're all out of Captain Crunch, dude. Yeah, he's 100%. He's 100% wearing the cheapest Stone Island piece he could find at Kith treats right now. He's like, let me get the Virgil up low, but make it vegan. Can you do the Virgil vegan? Not right now? Okay. Um, no, they, so Lou Williams and Jack Carlo, well, Lou Williams was obviously in the NBA and he, was part of the NBA bubble. And then he broke quarantine in the bubble to go to a strip club, Magic City. Yeah. With Jack Harlow. With Jack Harlow. And then somebody reached out and they were like, can you paint this? That's so cool. Honestly, I blame you, Chris, because you. You had me paint you and everybody's like, oh, she does people. And now everybody's making out for me. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry for making you more money. God, it's so awful to be Brynn. So you weren't ready. Maybe you weren't ready to break the fourth wall out of the animal kingdom, but you needed a push from Chris to do that. Yeah.

This will go down in the art history textbook, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, they'll do a transcription of this interview when the Rizzoli book drops. What kind of person commissions this? Can you just give us a little tip? I think it's somebody who follows me on Twitter. So they know me. I think that's great because you have a relatively affordable rate for your artwork and paintings. this is an amazing thing that I want to be immortalized forever and hang on my wall. And I can do that in a one, one of one unique way. I think that's, I think that's an amazing part of your passion gig economy. Yeah. Was there a photo of them together or did you have to make this up? No, I think some website photoshopped it and then he provided that photo for reference. So I'm just going off that. Hey, I can show you. Is there nudity? Oh, shit. You did a good job drawing the Magic City logo. I'm doing my best. Very cool. I love art, so it's cool to see. Do you think that you guys are on social media too much? Yes, I was just talking to my therapist about this. No. We already know Chris's answer is no, but you were talking to your therapist about this as a yes. Yeah, I'm just like, I'm getting in my own way. Like, I could be doing so much, but I'm so addicted to Twitter. By doing so much, do you mean going viral on Twitter or do you mean something different? No, I'm already going viral on Twitter. I'm saying less than that. You could be creating your art and working towards projects and things like that. You could be writing that book, that screenplay. Yeah, I could be on my Sophia Amoroso flow. You could be nasty galling, but instead you're sending these nasty little replies, aren't you? Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know. I need to strike a better balance. Do you have a screen time check? Yeah, my screen time on average, I feel like, is between four and a half to five and a half hours a day. Okay, good. That's light work. Yeah, I'm in the four's range as well, and Chris is touching 11. I'm trying to hit double digits like I'm Lou Will. I'm banging out in South Gwinnett like Lou Will. Chris is doing triple doubles. I won the sixth man of the year award for a reason. You know what I'm saying? You would think he'd be getting more likes for the amount of hours he's putting in, but yet not so much. I mean, the double works hard, but Stevie works harder. So are you exercising any ways to get the tweets? down get the screen time down um no this was a conversation as of today that i'm like you know what but brett you've been known to disappear from the applications from time to time for extended periods yeah it's either like full abstinence or i just go ham um so i don't know feast or famine what feast or famine but you need to go into album mode more often I think. Yeah, I need to get back in the stew. Can you imagine what Brandon Forty would do? That'd be a legendary link up, Jason. Wait, what? Nothing, nothing. Yeah, I mean, I feel the same way. I think that I definitely look at Twitter and Instagram a little too much. And it does take away from being able to focus on the work at hand. And sometimes I just have to put my phone in the other room. Yeah. And close that browsing. I have questions for you guys. Um, that's not really how podcasting works, but go ahead. I just split the switch. I want to know, do you guys, how many, how many listeners you rocking with these days on how long gone? Like how many people listen like every month or how many times the pod gets a play?

No, whatever. We don't know exactly how many people in the world listen to it. Millions, but you know. I have the numbers. I don't know if Chris wants that to be released into the world. I do have the numbies. We don't do public bag talk. That's disrespectful to other podcasts. Okay, okay. But you guys are successful, no? Like people tune in. Yeah, I could say that there are thousands and thousands and thousands of people who are a part of the audience, thankfully. You know, I would say, I would go a step further. There's hundreds of thousands of people that are members of the audience. Wait, really? Six figs? Yeah. No, absolutely zero caps. Wow, no cap. And they're all uniques as well. You know what I think? What do you think? You guys got to stop recording so many pods and start worshiping God. That sounds like a Justin Bieber lyric. Jesus talk. So God greater than pod is the shirt that we're making next? Yeah. Damn, bro. So you're saying that firing up the anchor.fm is doing the devil's work. In so many words. Do you listen to podcasts, Brynn? The only one I really listen to is The Daily. Oh, my God. Couldn't have been a worse answer. I'm not here to beat anyone. I'm Michael Barbaro, bitch. Brynn came on this podcast talking like she's on a reality show. I'm not here to impress anybody, okay? I'm not here to make any friends. I'm here to listen. I'm here to find love and that's all. I'm just here to find love. I'm about to throw a glass of champagne at your face. No, I just... I don't know how to read, so I need a way to stay informed on current events. Hell yeah. Can't read, I have, stand up. But yeah, podcasts are good. It's a great way to receive your news and information. And luckily in 2020, you can get it from a newspaper, a website, a podcast, or virtual reality, whatever it might be. VR. I think VR is the future. But are you religious, Brynn?

No. I was baptized. Who wasn't, honey? You weren't. I think I may have been. No, they might have sprinkled your ass when you were a baby, but you didn't make the choice to choose to let God into your heart. The tub wasn't big enough to dunk Big TJ in. Even as a youngster. God said, I don't want this big bitch. Put him back. yeah yeah i went to heaven they said we're full big big ass um yeah that's good i mean i don't you know we don't fuck with the religion on how long gone i can't believe the construct of man yeah we are this is an anti-religious podcast but i also can't believe the daily is i really want to enjoy it for the information but he's too insufferable I feel like it's an acquired taste and you just kind of get over it. You know the tea about him, right? I've heard some things. He's a bi king. I wouldn't put it that way, but it's a pretty sick move he made. Chris, give us the NYT on the host. He left his man, his husband, for a chick, the producer of the show. It's a bi king. You already know what I'm saying. Business and pleasure. Yo, I'm not the only podcast host who's an absolute motherfucking frizzneak. It's also my daily man. He's putting in work daily. Are you saying that New York Times The Daily host Michael Barbero is indeed a cocksman, a stickman? He's nasty. A certified freak. No, he's a certified frizzneak. But the thing with him is he only liked to watchy. I will only want to watch sex, not do it. Can you do an imitation of him, Bren? Here's what else you need to know today. I think I do. I think I actually, I haven't done in a while, but I'm like, you're listening to.

The Daily. You guys are already in hot water with The Daily. I saw that cease and desist. Fuck them losers at The Daily. Fuck that. Fuck the failing New York Times. We settled out of court. Chris had to zell over a baggie. But we got it sorted out. We beat the case. You know what I'm saying? We beat the case. Me and TJ doing no time. Check the ankle. There's no bracelet. You know what I'm saying? We fresh out. We had to do it for tax purposes. They had to buy something from the big cartel store. And then there was a transaction that happened because we can't really talk about the legality of it. My lawyer told me it would be my best interest not to discuss a case. Even though it's closed, it's still something that's very sensitive and I wouldn't want to cause any more problems for Jason. I got warrants. Jason's got warrants. Jason can't drive a car in fucking Rhode Island. You know what I mean? He wasn't there in 2008, Brent, because Jason pulled up in the Zuzu with the weight in the back. You dig! He's like, what's up, RISD shouties? You guys need some blow? I'm looking for some RISD shouties who are trying to get blowed out tonight. You're like art school? Brim, what do you think about Instagram photo dumps? Oh, man. I don't know. First of all, don't say dump on the TL. I don't know. I don't like that word. And I think that it's like now part of our jargon. Like there are just some trends that like grind my gears and I'm not losing sleep over it, but I'm just like, you can post one photo. You don't have to always take advantage of the multiple media feature. So do you, would you rather when people call them Lucy's than a dump, than a dumpy? Yeah, that's, that's cute.

Would you rather? Fellas, is it Morgan or Lucy or Dumpy? Would you rather remove your rib to suck your own dick? No, no, no. That's my favorite pop culture phenomenon. I prefer the high school student who put peanut butter on his dick for the dog to lick it off. That's my preferred. Yeah, but that's not a myth. the you did that jason i've seen it i've seen it happen i've never done it you're like come here come here girl yeah i mean like i didn't like it putting putting peanut butter on your on your body and having a dog lick it that's that's that's a very plausible situation it makes a lot of sense but like to have your ribs surgically removed just so you could suck your own peepee that's not something that i've seen proven you know there's not like a tiktok of like hey guys going into surgery about to get my rib removed i'm like surgery went well all right i'm gonna try it after the doctor said i have to rehab and then in six weeks i'm gonna be i wonder if Maybe you're just not a big enough Marilyn Manson fan. Yo, I'm Manny. I'm Manny Gang. He's the original dick sucker. But he did not invent removing a rib to get your dick sucked. I think that's been going on for millennia, since maybe the 20s or 30s. Yeah, I'll say it. He popularized it. He got popping, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He remixed it. Aoki style. Have you seen that TikTok commercial with Steve Aoki on it? Yeah. And I was like, damn, bro, how much money did you get for this, you little son of a bitch? I'm like, started from Din Mach Tuesdays. Now we're here. Don't do that to Jason. It triggers him. It's kind of a nice commercial. He lost his Din Mach chain. Jason lost his Din Mach chain. He hasn't really been the same since.

I lost my train in the divorce. I had to sell it Palm Stars style. He ended up in Vegas, Palm Stars, and he got $250 for it. Wow. So no dumpies, no sweet greens. We're going to work on social media doing too much. Chris, I had a question for you. You still have the article that you wrote in February about wearing leather pants pinned to your Twitter. When are we going to get some new content up there? I know that you're creating. I've released multiple new content pieces since that pinned, but I forget sometimes because I'm not looking at my Twitter page like, you are a loser. Why are you checking my page? Is it bad to look at your... All right, listeners. Why are you checking my page, bro? Why are you going to twitter.com? Why don't you just look at the timeline where the new heat is? Why are you going to my page? It makes you think. I'm going to your page so I can find things to make fun of you for on this podcast, obviously. It's material. It's material, bruv. I should update that, and thank you for that note. I will do that as soon as we get off the podcast here today. I know it's urgent. That's what he's here for you. You guys are like peanut butter and jelly. Well, I mean, I guess. I mean, Jason's Twitter is not up to peanut butter standard, but it's going okay. I'm Squirrel Jam. My Twitter is on Squirrel Jam. Let me tell you, did we talk about me having Squirrel the other day on the podcast? I think so. You won't shut up about it. You had it post-incident, you had it? Hell yeah. I had a week ago. It was hot fire. It was so good. What'd you get? I got the crispy rice bowl. Oh, you're like, what that Sorel do? Brynn, I miss you. You got to come out to LA, man. I'm coming. Are you ever going to move here? Are you going to be NYC 4L? You know, that's all to be determined, but I'm visiting at the end of the month. Oh, it's turn up. It's turn up time then. What are we going to do, Brynn?

I don't know. Is Villa Carlota ready? Actually, I don't know if it is. I'll have to tell you to keep your voice down. I want to get evicted. You act like I'm an animal. I worked at Sotheby's. I can rein it in. Sotheby's. I saw you at Sotheby's. You didn't have your little Hillary Clinton pantsuit on or anything. It was still regular bread. Well, when you come to LA and you're ready for the Runyon jumping... jumping in front of the hollywood sign pic hit me up yeah wait no i'm gonna do the cobra cobra snake run club my my ring light is has mobile capabilities so we can go outdoors your what ring light oh can i ask you a question brand when do you so when you know like when travis scott goes from cactus jack to sicko mode when do you go from from regular brand walter a girl a classic american woman from new jersey to Bryn Trill? When does the switch flip? That's actually a really good question. Hold up for your pajama juice. I don't know. I feel like that's a loaded question. I like both regular Bryn and Bryn Trill, but I just think the people are only getting Bryn Trill. I wonder, do you wake up, hop out the bed, turn your Trill on? gradual rise to trouble when did you realize that you have a multiple personality swag disorder bipolar kings um i i i don't is this like a recent observation i just feel like i've been i've had more time to be online and you and the people are getting more of brin trill just by virtue Of the fact that when I'm not freelance copywriting or painting, I'm just going off on the web. You are honestly going the fuck off, though. It's dead-ass true. Is it two moss, or am I living just the right amount of moss? I think you're living just the right amount of moss. And I think it's good to have that left brain and right brain outlet.

where, you know, everything that you think of can be compartmentalized into the right place of like, this is a good idea. This will be my podcast idea. This is my book idea. This is my painting idea. And this is like a, it's something that's so terrible and stupid, but also so amazing and hilarious that, thank God, Twitter is there to put that out because, you know, you're not above or below any type of content. Yeah. Or at least that's the way I like to live. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah, but I don't know. I feel like L.A. Brynn is her own vibe. What's L.A. Brynn? Like Wyndon the Hare convertible Brynn? Just like Hollywood. No, I don't know. I mean, definitely. Did you guys know me when I wasn't sober? No. Yes, I think so. Yeah. I don't know. But you weren't a different person, I don't think. No, but I was definitely really out and about for a while there in LA. You make it sound like it's bad to be a social butterfly. No, no, no. I mean, I'm still a social butterfly, but I feel like I was at... Jason, do you remember the GFM weekly party at Lore? Oh, yes. Yes, I do. Private label? Yeah. I was like, washed out, DJ set tonight. Yeah, that was when Bryn had bottle service privileges. Yeah. Don't touch my fucking bottle. Don't touch my fucking bottle. I didn't want you to touch the fucking ice. Some of those parties were lit, though. No, they were lit. It was a good time. I feel like I was in LA at the right time, right place. Although L.A. seems pretty fun. What year? I'm sorry. What was the Brent Trill reign of terror on West Hollywood? What era is this? Well, I moved to L.A. right after I graduated college in 2012. That's right, fella. That's right, fella. She's college educated. You know what I'm saying? Let's go. Yeah. Bachelor of Arts, English Literature. Damn. Damn. Must be nice.

No, but like 2012 was before I remember when I first got to LA, like even Uber wasn't a major thing. And then right when I moved to like my first apartment there, cause I was, at first I was sleeping on my mom's couch in Venice. Um, but then I moved. Yeah. Um, like I was like rolling in lift credits at a certain point. And that was when Lyft had the pink mustache and the riders would give you the fist bump. Jason remembers because that's what he was doing in between DJ sets. So he definitely remembers that. Yeah, I would pull up in the Yaris with the pinky on and I would say, get in here, Broseph. You're like, hey, your lift is here. No, but I feel like things were just a little bit on the early edge. When I moved to LA, also, influencer wasn't a word in everybody's vocabulary. It was kind of like this sweet spot between what was and now. It was a calm before the shitstorm. Yeah, you could walk past the Paul Smith pink wall and nobody considered it as an Instagram background. That's crazy to think about. Damn, you're making me really reminisce for this little sweet spot of 2013-14 where that was sort of maybe the last good-ish okay time of America. What were you doing then, TJ? DJing? I was DJing the party that she was getting turned up at. The party that I was also supposed to be producing. Yeah, we were just part of a production team. Yeah. Where I do moon rocks and try to get Jamie XX to smoke cigarettes with me. I'm like lugging 50 pound bags of ice at the Saguaro Palm Springs to fill up like the Vitacoco activation. Damn, honestly, that was a dark period for nightlife, actually. I mean, Chris was doing that back in the days as well, but earlier. But in New York, right?

I was global, baby. But he wasn't doing no manual labor. He was a shot caller. I was on camera. Chris wouldn't even set up the cocktail napkins on the tables. Not even that. You get your own straws, losers. I'm the talent. You're like, do you know who I am on Tumblr? Wow. No, I did. Jason, we did parties together then, didn't we? Yeah, we did, right? Yeah, we did. We definitely did. How did you guys meet? Raya. We met DJing. I booked Jason to DJ in Atlanta. That's how we met, right? That was the first time that we met, yeah. I think it was through, was it through Matt Goldman who introduced us maybe? I think so. Matt Goldman or Grace. It was somebody who did as much coke as Chris Black did, introduced the two of us. Uh-huh. Chris was like, I heard the Damgees remix of Stay by Rihanna. Oh, this is pre-Stay, honey. This is... This is a lot longer. Jason came to a legendary hole-in-the-wall Atlanta night spot L-bar, and he shut the fuck down, if I remember correctly, Jason. That is right, yeah. I showed up, I touched down in ATL, shouty, and then Chris Black picked me up from the airport in his Coke White Benz. It was black, first of all. Was it black? It was black tar, you know what I'm saying? It was the black C-class. and then i was like you know what atlanta i think i could get used to this and then and then you know we we just drove around you know made fun of different people that we knew together and then we've been doing it ever since you know and then i did yeah the the club that i was playing was like a real like atl for the heads kind of spot if i remember and i think there's a little bit of a pressure of like

cali you gotta bring it cali boy coming through you know it was it was not unlike a a boiler room energy you know like you can't you you're not here you're not here to mess about mate yeah you're cali guys wow you're like la brea first i go to mishka then i hit first i go to mishka Mishka is aesthetically the worst brand that's ever existed. I fucking hate Mishka. Damn, bro. I forgot about Mishka. Jason was definitely rocking a Mishka flat. Mishka, that's Familia, baby. Your MCM was Mishka. Jason was definitely going back to back with A-Track in a full Mishka fit. Yeah, I had like a... a baby blue zebra hoodie on. You know what I'm saying? It had like polar bear ears on it. God damn it. You're like, what up? My name's Marshmallow. Yeah. Yeah, so that's how we met. And now, you know, I guess we both met in the world of DJing, which is awesome. I wasn't. I was only, I was just helping out my friend who is a legendary Atlanta DJ, actually. Rob Wonder. You remember him, Jason? I do. I hope he's well. He is. He's sober. He's like doing really well, actually. Great. I know. But yeah. So, you know, Jason, Jason shut the club down. He probably smoked a fucking full pack of parliaments. And then, um, you know, I took him to the hotel. Ignition. I don't like to eat after the club. I'm not one of those. Chris, you don't like to eat at the club? I feel like Bryn and I are both 3 a.m. I'm going to bed. I'm not hungry. When you do enough coke, you're not hungry anymore. Also, I mean... I can always find a way for more fire sauce or whatever it is.

Yeah, for me, on this side, it's I could eat hive. Jason, you could always eat. I could eat. Hey, not for nothing, CB, but I could eat right now. You feel hungry, bro? You want to get a bite? You okay, bro? You barely finished your acai. Go ahead. No, I was just going to say on that note, thank you very much for podcasting with us, Bryn. Wow. This hour really flew by, you guys. That's what happens when we're podcasting with the big dogs. You know what I'm saying? And Bryn, expect for that offer for you to be a guest on podcast to flood in after this appearance. Yeah, they're going to be like, actually, brain chill is canceled. They saw you on Twitter and they were like, we think we want to have her on, but now we've tested you and we're going to shove you out into the world and they're going to accept you. Okay, I'll give you guys commission. Okay, that works. Thanks for dropping these great sound bites, non sequiturs, and audio gold. Tell them where they can find you on the web. At Bryntrail2. My Brintril 1 got deleted at 100k. Luca Sabat doesn't follow me anymore. You heard it here first. Kit Treats. We'll see you guys in September. We'll take you to Kit Treats for a live broadcast. Okay. Bye. Bye.