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Yo. Yo. You got me? I think so, yeah. I'm just checking our levels here. Oh, I love a level check. Alright, I think we're good. Check, check. What's Gucci? What's Gucci? This is Sunday night. I don't know when this will come out according to iTunes or Apple, but it'll probably be on Spotify soon. I mean, if they respect the artistry the way they should, it should come out tomorrow at 9 a.m. I don't even know if they have people at the office. That's the thing. You know what I mean, man? It's a wild time right now to be podcasting. To be creating art and putting it out into the world is brave. Damn, bro. First of all, I mean, minute one, and you're already getting me teared up. But this is a first. I mean, so I guess we should explain why we started doing this. We were texting and saying, like, hey, there's a lot of downtime. You haven't podded. I haven't podded in a while. We used to pod a lot together and not together. And, you know, since you seem to be the only person working left in America, all of everyone else's projects are a little on hold right now. You know, I want to give a shout out to all the people in the EDM community who have been hit hard by this. I will happily Venmo money for virtual DJ sets. I saw that. I saw that. Friend of the show, A-Track, Trinzel, is doing some scratching tutorials. So I'm very interested in that. You know what I mean? I don't think he needs my donations, to be honest. I think he's taped up. He's not asking for donations, is he? No, no, no. I'm just kidding. No, no, no. That would be funny. That would be so sick. That would be like a very cam girl thing going on. Yeah.

Well, I think DJs are pivoting to OnlyFans in this difficult time. Yeah, too bad all of them are ugly. It's not about that. It's about performance. You know what I mean? Sometimes there's more to it than just the scratching itself. Yeah, and then if you can be really far away from the crowd so they can't get a good look at you, even better. That's the other thing. Yeah. I mean, that's traditionally how it goes, but I think that, you know, during this difficult time, I think it's only best that, you know, you and I reunite to kind of bring them what they need. I think we've, we've been dormant, uh, much like a infectious disease. And now we are raging back to get our revenge on all these little fuck boy podcasters. I think they can do this better than we can. They need to hear what two white guys, have to say exactly they need to know what two idle white men have to say on these important subjects look we're tatted up we're not doing much for the economy we're ready to give you our medium takes we're tatted up but we really are uh yeah man i mean you know i i think there's gonna be a lot of um You know, they say in times like this, great artists created. And I would like to think that's something that we are trying to do. And maybe there's other people trying to do that, like for real. Well, this is our white album. This is our white album. So, yeah, I mean, you know, unfortunately, because we're located in different places, you have to do this via phone or, you know, this contraption we're using. So it's not going to be the standard we're used to. uh dedicated fans are used to yeah i i will sound pretty good and you will probably sound a little telephony but i think that'll add to the fun of it i think that'll add to the fun i i'm i'm also like you know that's the reality we're in unfortunately tj and i can't be together during these difficult times it's fucked up this is this is probably the first time i've ever really done a full pod remotely like this

Same. No, the only time I've done something like this is when I did Marketplace. But I was in a studio, and they were in a studio separately. Well, that was just interesting because I got there expecting there to be someone there, and then it was just me. Like some tech dork hooking up the mic and making sure everything ran properly. So you had to black out in the booth all alone? I had to black out in the booth all alone, but it was byby. It was fine. You know what I mean? I had my phone out. I had the incense burning. You already know the vibes. Well, I guess we should tell people what we're going to do on the show, even though we're figuring it out. I mean, the name. Why don't you explain how we landed upon this name? What's the name again? How long gone? No. Well, we were looking for a name that... felt like it was appropriate for the time but could also live on if if needed you know the team time yeah exactly the the current climate and then you know we realized this brooks and dunn song just happened to have have the title that we needed and i don't think either of us are particularly big brooks and dunn fans no our moms probably are Yeah, but that doesn't really stop me from discovering something great and then repurposing it for my own use. And then when we were listening to the song, it is exactly the same as the Third Eye Live song. Yeah, Never Let You Go. Never Let You Go. Never Let You Go from, I believe, the Blue Album, which is not the classic classic one, but still has like four singles on it because it was the 90s. Sure. And then, obviously, we had to repurpose the exceptional and recognizable color gradient from the New York Times, The Daily. It took me 40 seconds to Photoshop that shit out, baby. Because, you know, the idea this is going to be frequent, at least for the time being when we're under duress. So, it's...

It's a nod to that. And then I think How Long Gone, not only a great song that inspired another great song. The song is fine. It's a great song. Just a phrase. No, no. The Third Eye Blind song is a great song. Got it, got it, got it. Just so, you know, I think those three words, you know, it's... It relates to the climate. It relates to the climate. Go look up the lyrics. Go do the genius for the song and you'll see a lot of metaphors for a woman leaving you and also a government leaving you. Exactly. I feel abandoned by the U.S. government. Also the title, How Long Gone, Very Hard to Remember. Doesn't roll off the tongue so hot either. So it's going to be a great podcast title. It's our supreme. You know what I mean? Really memorable. Going to look good on a t-shirt. I mean, look. It's no better or worse than Chapo's Trap House. I'll say that for sure. I feel pretty confident that we're on the same level as those clowns. Speaking of that, we will make sure to cover zero political. commentary on this podcast I'm hoping yeah I mean I you know the first thing I think we need to talk about is just how you fucking bozos are ruining social media for me and it's absolutely crushing me because there's nothing else to fucking do and we're still in that phase where the information is new so you want to take it in but there's no way to take it in in doses if you're truly addicted to it like I am So you've been living on social media every day for years, and now all these people who used to have jobs who did their work during the tweeting hours are now free to spread terrible Instagram stories. Now they're proposing stupid ideas about how to do laundry for each other in this time of crisis.

It's just completely pointless drivel that like the world, we need memes right now. That's what we need. Well, you know, not everyone can do their laundry with ease, I guess. No, that's true. No, that's true. You can. I can. All joking aside, I actually can't. But all joking aside, I think that obviously social media is useful during times like this for the spread of information. it also becomes a sounding board for people who think they're scientists now because they've read more than I have. And that's the fear. That's honestly dangerous, I think, as far as the information sharing goes. So we've moved from influencers giving us advice about vaccinations and health and wellness and nutrition, and now it's just about epidemiological spreading tips. Yeah, things that are like, look, I'm not saying this isn't totally fucked. Like, we are totally fucked. There's no question this is dark as hell. Damn, that should have been the name of the podcast. Keep going. But we are totally fucked. But I think that there are just ways to talk about that and sources for certain information that maybe we don't necessarily need to deviate from just because we have more free time. Yeah, I think now more than ever as we're just... surrounded by news on social media and our moms watching CNN at home or Fox news, hopefully not. But like, it's just a barrage of, of bad news, one thing after another. And we need, you know, a little low blowing off the scene, a little comedy, a little fun, just even if it's just for an hour out of your day. No, I think so, too. I think it's just too dark. And I think the information is overwhelming and it's coming in so fast. It's very difficult, even for someone who I feel like I'm trained to think that way now. Self-trained, of course. It's too much. It's too much. And the other interesting thing is my mom, who is a lifelong medical professional, has not even really texted me about this that much.

she's not on social media. I think she's like, yeah, this is bad. This is the real life application. This is what's happening. But she's not in the vortex of like, we're so fucked. Everyone's going to die. And I think that does make a difference. What would it take for you to do a social media detox? I mean, I don't really know, man. I mean, it will seem. Oh, well, jail time, obviously. You would still have the burner just. to get the tweets off in jail, not to, not to text your hyena. Can you imagine how good my Twitter from jail would be? Oh my God, bro. That, that might be, that might, that's a, that's a TV show idea. I think, I think, I think, and you would be responsible for getting me the phone in jail. Cause you're my man on the outside. That's cool. It's from, it's going out of my ass and into yours. Exactly. From one ass to my mouth, baby. We're ready to go. We're going to need the 5C because it's smooth and small. We need the baby mama phone for this. We need the yellow jump. The green jumps go in smooth. The yellow? I don't know, man. I don't know. Because I've seen some people being like, hey, this is all fucking crazy. I'm just going to sign off for a little while. See you guys in a week. I think that's great. I think that's probably the right thing to do. I think I'm powerless. It's so hard, though. I think I'm powerless, yeah. Because every day you wake up and you're like, all right, I'm going to look at, I'm going to explore and see what's going on today. And then none of it is good, but you're like, damn, this happened. Now this happened. Damn. There's something new every hour. But I do think that it's going to slow, not slow down, obviously. The problem is not going to slow down. The mania will slow down. Yes, the manual slow down. And I do think to some extent, we will have to work. You know what I mean? Like, I think like people that have like more real jobs, or they're actually going to work from home, I think after like, you know, probably mid week or so, we'll actually like have to start working from home, and there'll be some real responsibilities. And like, I, you know, this weekend, when I was, I saw a few friends and you know, people that work in media mostly, and

They said actually that even though now is going to be a difficult time to make a print magazine, that all of their co-workers were really heavy on Slack and the lines are blurred now because people think they need to be working all the time because they don't really have anything else to do and they're not used to working from home. So if you're at lunch on a Saturday and my man's Slack is blowing up on a Saturday afternoon, that normally wouldn't be happening. uh in in you know in in regular conditions i mean a lot of people have a hard time separating work life from home life and and the importance of it it's crazy i don't i don't see that importance but yeah i'm sure it exists um i i just don't i i don't i don't know what it's like i mean you don't really either but like to have a job that like you want to completely shut off and turn off when you get home You know what I mean? Like that's not something I've really ever experienced. Well, I think it's less of wanting to and more of realizing it's the healthy thing to do at some point. Or else you're just, you know, what is the point of your life at that point just to make some startup bro a bunch of money? Well, I also think it depends on your situation. If you have a lot of like hobbies and like a rich home life with like a family, I think it's much easier to kind of like draw that line. It depends on how much indoor rock climbing you're actually doing. Exactly. What's your bouldering schedule look like? But I do think it makes a difference. If you have two kids and you are really serious about tennis and you love to read, then those 48 hours you get every week are going to be much more serious to you. Valuable to you, I guess, is the better way to put it. Versus just a person living alone in the Lower East Side. Bitch, I live in the East Village, first of all. I wasn't necessarily talking about you, but yeah, sure. Okay, well, fair enough. Are you feeling overwhelmed? I mean, the one thing that is overwhelming me was like, when everything first started happening, it was kind of like, oh, when Coachella gets canceled, that's when it's going to be real. That's the most Orange County should have ever heard you say. But that has nothing to do with my... I mean, that's more of just like a tentpole event.

Yeah. You know, like, you know, whatever, say what you want about Coachella. You know, it is dumb and cool all at the same time, whatever. But it is like the crown jewel music festival of America every year. Definitely. And for that to get canceled means something big is going on. So once that happened, which also feels like it was a month ago. Even though it was probably five days ago. Yeah, if not less. Once that happened, then it was kind of like the trickle down of what is going to be affected by that or by everything really started coming into light of like, oh, well, if I work in creative experiential strategy, like throwing events and pitching things that are happening, experiences that are happening. That is just done. That is just off. I mean, that's particularly off. Particularly off. Like absolutely government mandated off. And then how does that affect everyone else? How does that affect the people that fabricate the production for those events? How does that affect the security guards, the valet people? The economic. The economics part of it is, I think, beyond my grasp. How bad it will actually be is probably beyond my understanding. But I do think that is the darkest way to think about it. Something like Coachella, it's like whoever Frank Ocean can miss out on his fucking $2 million. You know what I'm saying? It's the entire ecosystem around the festival itself and how it gets built. broken down and promoted that that's really going to suffer those people um yeah but i mean you know people are upset too because like in new york at least not today so much and i i was out yesterday um shame but like i was out yesterday as well but i feel like that was probably yesterday was probably the last day i think i think yesterday was the last day like people were out like like i went to balthazar for lunch uh

And they were like counting people. You know what I mean? They were making sure it was like under the numbers that the government was saying it had to be. And like we were – they set you far away from people and the whole thing. Doing ins and outs at Balthazar. Doing ins and outs at Balthazar. It's a private party tonight. But like I didn't feel – I don't – I mean I think there's this – I think for yesterday it felt like a snow day for lack of a better term. That's what I've seen people using. which I understand now is probably irresponsible, but I also, like, I'm just so in denial because this affects me so much as a person who only lives to socialize that it's been very hard for me to swallow the fact that, like, I can't just go mob out with the gang for no reason. Like, it's really hard to understand. You do love to mob out with the gang. I love to mob. You know that about me. I mean, I think you kind of love to mob out with the gang too, though. Yeah, I mean, I've greatly decreased my mobbing out as of, you know, in the last year or something. But I definitely do love it. And I think it's very important for human beings to mob out with the gang. I mean, I think it's also like a real part of like a New York lifestyle, I think, because it is just so easy to like bounce around and have that day, you know. And it's sort of like without that, what's the point of being in New York, you know? Exactly. So yesterday I ran into, no kidding, 15 people I knew probably in the afternoon of sitting on a bench outside, you know, trying to stay six feet away from Sam Hine. It's like I don't, you know, I don't. But I did get home and felt a little weird about it. And then I was like, I probably shouldn't have done that. And then today I did not do that. I went outside for a walk and then that was basically it. Yeah, you and I are on the same exact trajectory. I think yesterday it was kind of like, well, I'm not going to do anything other than I'm not just going to like do, you know, hit the mall or whatever. I'm going to go and buy groceries and that's going to be my activity. And I did that. But then even then it was just kind of like, do you really need to buy this slice of pie right now?

I think in LA too, I, I just feel like there's a prepper culture from like earthquakes and just that whole thing has been, has been a part of like the California DNA for so long. Whereas I don't feel like the East coast has that kind of underlying history. Unless you're in like tornado country, hurricane country. Yeah. Yeah, no, for sure. But I think New York is more used to things like nine 11 or hurricane Sandy where it's like, It's a disaster event versus – I don't know. I guess that's the same as an earthquake. But I guess earthquakes are a known part of West Coast culture. It happens all the time for obviously varying degrees. But I just think that kind of is a very different thing and a different approach. Because I feel like if I had a house and a car right now, I would feel a lot more mellow. Interesting. I don't know why. Because you don't have an escape pod. Nah, bro. I mean, I don't know. The jet's grounded. You know what I'm saying? Like fucking Blade called me and told me that, you know, the helicopter's not going to the Hamptons. So, I mean, the story, the stories of all the people going to the Hamptons are, it's so good. I haven't seen any. Bro, they're running out of cash at the banks in the Hamptons because guys are trying to withdraw like 50 racks. It's so sick. It's so sick. And Barry's is like staying open out there, but closing here. Really? I didn't know that they were staying open out there. Well, I mean, as of yesterday, there's a good New York Times story about it. But it's like that New York Times story that I shared with you, I'm sure you saw, about the guy who hoarded all the supplies. Dude, he basically got doxxed. And then he's now, his entire business is ruined. He had to donate all of it, and the government is investigating him for price gouging. His life is totally ruined. His life is totally ruined. And he definitely was a fucking dickhead. I mean, people were like coming and saying they were going to kill his family and shit. You know what I mean? It's like full OD, like nightmare out here. Yeah. It's definitely like, uh, like don't, don't fuck with cats. Like that documentary. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, you fucked up. No question. He's a dickhead, but like his children. Exactly. But like, I don't, I don't, the hoarding is, is pretty out of control. I also don't understand. I mean, I think it's such a weird impulse.

to buy things in such bulk when when there's like no proof there's actually gonna be an issue with that like we were talking there's also no proof that there's not going to be an issue which is yeah that's true that's true that's true no you're right but i just like when i'm reading quotes from like food distributors being like yeah i mean we're having a hard time keeping up but like we're good to go like the the fucking the flow is on we're good um that's reassuring yeah all of all of your favorite keto snacks are are all available now do you have other friends obviously excluding me the most important but do you have people that are fully melting down not really i don't i don't have anybody who's fully melting down yeah same i i don't think we would know those i think unfortunately we know you know gen z and millennial types who like don't really care about anything except like getting bernie elected You know what I mean? I just think they care, but they don't care enough to have a full fucking freakout. Well, speaking of freakouts, I think one thing that I've noticed is a lot of people, since they are quarantined and everyone is buying groceries and having Instagram stories of them cooking their meals at home and taking time to make bread and stuff like that. I realize that you are fucked because you have, you know. I mean, no, I mean, that wasn't a diss. That was just like, I feel for you because I know that you are reliant on outside food and restaurants. So if that shuts down, then what's going to happen for you? Have you thought about an exit strategy for how you're going to eat? I mean, I bought some rice cakes and some $12 almond butter. I'm feeling pretty good about that. I also got the large Harmless Harvest coconut water. God damn it. So I'm feeling pretty good so far. I mean, they're going to allow delivery, so I'm fine. Well, for now, I'm just saying, you know, let's do nightmare scenario. Restaurants shut down.

the only thing you can do is go to the supermarket and get food. Are you just going to live off of $12 almond butter and rice cakes? Or are you going to have to, are you going to pick up a spatula and start stirring? I mean, I'm not, I'm not exaggerating when I say I don't have like a pot or a pan. Like people think I'm kidding. I'm like, no, I'm not kidding. I don't have a single thing. So I would have to hit, I mean, is Sir La Tabla open or do you think they're closed? Like, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Sir La Tabla is closing, bro. I know. I think they're out of business, actually. But there's a delay on Amazon, but Le Creuset could still make it here in time for me before I die, I think. I love that you are going to die because you're not going to settle for anything less than Le Creuset in your color. And your color of Le Creuset is going to be on back order. And you're just going to be starving to death in your apartment because it didn't arrive on time. No, I have a plan. I'm going to the woods. You know, it's going to be fine. It's going to be fine. Yeah, I just don't think that, like, I don't. Honestly, what I've been thinking about more, because Alex has taken care of the food, what I'm thinking about more is the workouts. I'm truly worried. Are you going to get the mirror, the workout mirror? No, but this is the first time in my life that I've ever been like, damn, Peloton really was a good idea. Peloton until two days ago was for fat, rich guys. Now Peloton is fucking genius. Well, Peloton is going to have a great moment, but the problem with that is if their demand exceeds their supply, their peloton is definitely being manufactured somewhere in asia yeah no they're fucked taiwan or taipei or in china so like all that stuff is going to be on back order as well no they're going to sell all of them uh that they have for sure no no i think that i think that because you know we got we got a lot of questions um to our to our email address and a lot of them were about the exercise routine

Okay, well, we'll get to those. We have to record so many episodes every week. Don't worry. Oh, no, no. I was just talking about working out. So a lot of people were asking about, I mean, that is a real thing. And, you know, people were hating on TJ's prison workout. But now, who's laughing at us? Now TJ looking good. But the thing with TJ's prison workout is you got to have a fucking backyard. You know, and some of us don't have that. In New York, you know. Do you have the roof? No, I don't got a roof, bro. What you think? You think I live in Tribeca? Like, damn, I got a roof. What do you mean? I got a fire escape. I've seen a lot of Instagram thoughts who have a nasty little roof. You can go up there. Yeah, that's because they live in some ugly building in Williamsburg. I got pre-war, okay? Pre-war? It's different, dude. So not every building has roof access is what you're saying. Nah, bro. We got crown moldings. We got beautiful floors, but we ain't got no roof. Okay, okay. We ain't got no roof. I think if your ceiling is high enough, you can do enough, right? I mean, like I said, I'm relocating. But I still think that if you're in the city, you need a yoga mat. And honestly, the thing that Yayo put together is pretty good. My friend, he has a client, this woman, Kira Stokes, and he gave me a login to her fitness videos, and it's big fire. And the Nike Training Club app is amazing. Even if you don't pay for it, it's really good. So we got options, but it's just got to be body weight unless you got kettlebells. You really should order some resistance bands, though. You think so? Okay. I think ordering resistance bands, they're cheap. They have them at Amazon. If you've got yoga mat, resistance bands, and a fucking internet connection, you'll be all right. I say kettlebells is the way to go. I agree, but those are a little harder to get, I feel like. Amazon just brings them to your house. It takes longer. They don't do two days, but it doesn't cost any more. It's just like 40 bucks or something shows up at the crib. What I'm concerned with for you is like...

All the eating, bro. You got to chill, fam. I see your ass making broths and cakes and eating out using leftover rice to make some other shit. You got to chill, bro. I can't have TJ coming out of quarantine with an extra TJ. I know, I know. I'm keeping an eye on it, but the only reason why the fitness has been slipping is because of the rain. It's just been, it's been like raining for over a week straight now. So once that clears away, I'll be back. I'll be back pumping. So I'm fine. Okay. And also, you know, me drinking bone broth is not going to pack on the pounds, buddy. Well, I'm not worried about the bone broth. I'm worried about the natty wines. The natty wine has definitely gone down a lot. I've picked up the bong. I was going to say, I have to say, man, this has been nothing makes me want to get zonked out on drugs more than sitting around the house and not having any other option. Like, it's the first time I've truly been like, damn, I wish I was gone off a bean right now. Nothing makes you Jones more than than solid confinement. I mean, nothing. Yeah, like sitting on the couch with nothing to do. The perfect thing to. pair to couple with that is a handful of oxys and a couple of hits off the ball it's true dude it's just like the best man that's that's i mean taking taking oxy and then after sitting on the couch is bomb as hell maybe maybe just a little maybe just a little marijuana but i think people you know, across the world are going to be smoking a lot more weed. I think everyone's a little on edge and like they don't want to, they still want to have their wits about them. Yeah, no, I agree. So I don't know if people are really going to be like barred out like, like you, but you know, people are going to be smoking. To be clear, I'm not going to be barred out. I know. I am not.

But the idea of it is like, damn, there's no more perfect time to abuse drugs than right now. So what is going to be your new anti-drug if you don't have fitness? That's the real question. No, I'm going to have fitness, bitch. That's the whole thing. I'm working this out. I'm going to do it. Maybe I will. I think I'm going to be writing a lot. I just said there's going to be a need for lighter content. after the initial wave passes, so I would like to do more. My column's going to continue, and I feel like there's some opportunities to do more. But otherwise, I don't really know, Teej. I don't really know. That's why I wanted to launch this important podcast. Well, this will be one of your anti-drugs, and mine as well. It'll keep me off the naughty wine. I don't know. That's the question. I think I can read and do all that stuff, but... There's nine, 10, 12 hours. That shit is boring as hell, dog. What do you mean, read, dog? But I mean, I don't know what people... You cook and do all that stuff to the point where it takes up a lot of time. Unless I take up knitting or figure drawing or I get onto my master class and learn script writing, I don't know what's left. I don't know what I would do. Puzzles? that's so whack it's so stupid like puzzles are better than board games board games are for boring people but puzzles are a little more interesting i guess but like puzzles are low-key kind of good but yeah board games no no no no i don't play cards i don't play board games like just not for me that's dork shit but it does kill time what do um so what do you think about i've seen a lot of new york specific restaurant and bar shaming going on more than any other place in America, I would say. What is going on in the restaurant scene over there? Are people still going out or is it changing? Yeah, for sure. I mean, Saturday people were out. Today, when I did my walk, I was out for an hour or so. I went to Whole Foods. It was pretty mellow but also picked over.

People are out. I mean, there's that certain age group of people that are like in their early 20s where you're still on that mindset that like you're untouchable. I'm going to live forever. They're walking around in like bad Chelsea boots, definitely drunk. You know, like that, that there was at least there's a handful of those. But I think a lot of places like anywhere else are doing like the takeout situation. I went to Brasso to get a coffee and they had like all the food set up to take away. You know, which I think is smart. I mean, again, I don't, you know, there's so many things that people are focused on, like what's important and what's not, you know, and everybody has their own agenda a little bit. The small business thing is fairly important to me as a person who like cares about that and tries to, you know, even unwittingly supports that stuff in almost all facets of my life. I would like to do that if I thank you, Jason. Hey, I'm doing the same. I'm doing the same. So it's like, I would like to be able to do that. And I think that that's what this delivery and like takeout thing will do. Will allow them to at least like operate with a skeleton crew and like provide food for the neighborhood and make some money. Do curbside pickup and all that stuff. Yeah. So I'm happy to do that. And I think that will continue. I think, I mean, going to bar stuff, it's, it came out already and they're shutting that down in New York on like Tuesday. So that's a wrap, but yeah, people were definitely out. Not as, I mean, the shit in Chicago for St. Patrick's day, the girl being like, I'm young and healthy. I'm going to do what I want. It's, it's amazing. It's so funny, dude. People are so stupid. But also like that attitude, you know, a lot of people have that attitude like two weeks ago or something. And now those same people are like, you're a fucking monster, which is true. I had that attitude to an extent, but it was more like, am I really going to let this impact like my life? Can I just be like aware of it and continue on? And it's like, no, no, you can't. You can be aware of it and not continue on.

Have you been receiving a lot of emails from brands who feel the need to let you know what they're doing? Of course. A lot of important. I got one from Framebridge today. I got one from Tesla. That's fire. The Tesla one is letting... I don't own a Tesla, first of all. I just got one. And letting me know that you can do... you can buy a tesla now without having to go into the store that you can just like email them and they'll send you a tesla and then if you like it you can buy it and then if you after a week if you don't like it then they'll just come pick it up so like even even car buying has been damn has curbside should we just come to la and i just get a tesla for the week it's like a rental car free rental car i mean when the cybertruck comes out we're gonna need it The Cybertruck, you already know we're whipping Glendale. You better watch out. Them roads ain't safe. The valet of the standard ain't gonna know it hit him. Yeah, I've gotten some pretty good ones. But I mean, I also don't know. I think corporations are just so terrified to be held responsible for anything that they just want to make some sort of statement on the record to the people on their mailing list. That's what it feels like to me. But it's been pretty amazing because they're all kind of the same. It starts to feel like a form letter. Yeah, it's all the same. We don't need to know what Outdoor Voices is going to do for the virus. They're not going to be doing much, baby. I think Outdoor Voices caught the virus, actually. I think they got it. I think that's the problem. Damn, bro. Outdoor Voices got corona. They can blame their demise on corona, I guess. Well, no, she's got to blame her demise on men, but the corona is pretty good out, too. What do you think, I guess, the more I've been thinking about, you and I were talking maybe a week ago about all the jobs and careers and industries that are going to be affected negatively by this, and we were like, what is going to be affected positively by this?

How is this going to change things? And obviously, you know, creating content is one of them. As we're all going to be quarantined, we're going to need a lot of content. But how do you think, you know, how do you think it's going to change content? Do you think it's going to change how like movies are made and, you know, budgets and release schedules? I think release schedule-wise, I think this is starting to happen to an extent. I saw that my friend's brother made that movie with Pete Davidson that's on Hulu. Oh, actually, I watched it last night. I wanted to include an audio bit in the intro of this podcast where the kid is defending Pete Davidson, who's a loser, older brother guy. And he's like... he's not a loser. He's like, he's starting a podcast soon. And I was watching it with my girlfriend and my girlfriend definitely left at that. And I didn't. And then today we're starting a podcast. I mean, to be fair, this is more of you and I doing a podcast together. It feels like a more of a revisiting versus a starting, but I understand the sentiment, but that, that movie was supposed to come out in a couple of weeks, but they moved it up. Really? I didn't know that. Yeah, and Donald Glover, a friend of the pod, he moved his up, too. He released a record out of nowhere that was, I'm sure, finished, but I imagine putting it out on a Saturday. Yeah, he put it out on a Saturday at 4 a.m., and the artwork looked like a burrito wrapped in foil. He's the fucking absolute worst. But 21 sounds good on the song, I will say. 21's got a lot of good features right now. I'm glad you listened to it. I couldn't even do that. are going to do that though. I think that like the studios, instead of pushing a movie back by two years or whatever they're going to do at this, this point are going to be like, well, we can put James Bond on streaming and make a fucking bag right now. And you know, I think that's smart with music more, I think just because it's not as I don't, I just think it's easier with music for some reason. I think people are used to that kind of stuff with music. Whereas like,

You know, there was a couple of years ago where like Sean Parker had a startup where you, if you have like a home theater, you could pay a hundred dollars per person and see a movie like when it came out in theaters, which is, you know, honestly a pretty good idea, I think. Amazing idea. So something like that. Unless you have Pirate Bay. Exactly. Of course. But not all of us are hackers. So if I could, I think there's a lot of people in the world sitting at home that are like, if I could pay $25 to watch James Bond right now. Oh, yeah. Well, do you think this could be the thing that finally kills movie theaters? Yeah, it could for sure. I mean, I think it's really going to fuck up live music business. I think this is such a revenue stream for artists. It's the only revenue stream. Yeah, that's fucked. I mean, I think streaming numbers are going to go up, of course. But again, I think the pennies on a dollar from streaming versus making, you know. thousands and thousands of dollars a night plus merch um on tour is just kind of there's nothing that could replicate that do you think um festivals might go pay-per-view i mean i think there's i think people are gonna i think it's actually gonna be interesting to see what people do i think there's gonna be some like instagram live youtube like that whole shit like is gonna be very good i think that's gonna be like super interesting and work really well um but I think that the reality when stuff like this happens is it does kind of, you know, sort it out. It trims the fat a little bit. Um, and maybe some of these things that were hanging on and didn't need to be here are going to get cut and that will make the better things bigger or create an opportunity for new people and new blood to come in. You know, I don't know, but I do think there's, there's festival, the festival business, you know, better than I is fucking bloated. So like, It's very bloated. We need to get Rolling Loud out of here before it kills people. Rolling Loud is actually the best one. But if we can get 40% and 30% of these festivals out of here by natural selection, maybe that's good. Maybe that opens a door for young people to do something new or try to introduce a new platform or concept. You know what I mean? Something like Boiler Room.

think about that would be birthed from like a moment like now, right? You know, like obviously that that's an idea we're all familiar with, but there's something out there we're not familiar with that, that somebody is going to come up with during this time. Do you think it's going to push the, uh, the literary, literary form of content ahead? Yeah. I mean, there's gonna be some trash books come out, you know, a year from now, like my Corona. there's always some trash books coming out but oh definitely yeah for sure but i think it's more like i i think this is a time like what i want to write about is stuff on the internet available for people to see that they might not realize is there you know not and not like movies and tv shows but like weird youtube shit or weird playlist weird stuff that i for whatever reason know about or my friends know about that need to be shared with a bigger audience because they're gonna run a shit to look at you know well why don't we have a segment on this podcast that covers that then we could do that but i'd rather write it and get paid for it but let's see and we can figure it out we can we can figure that out okay well i have one i was watching yesterday there's The Heidi Fleiss documentary from the 90s that was made by the BBC guy. Even if you watch it with the sound off, just for the archival footage of LA in the 90s, it's very sick. It's so good. I would recommend it. BBC made a lot of cool stuff on YouTube. They did a series about photographers that was really good too that are kind of hard to find, but that sounds A+. Yeah, I think it's on Amazon or it's on one of the free streaming sites. But yeah, check that out. But you should watch the Pete Davidson movie. It's a little, you know, it hits. Well, I feel like even though Machine Gun Kelly is in it, I'll like it. He actually did a nice job. I'm sorry, MGK. I know you guys are friends. Yo, he's tatted up just like you, bro. Yo, we tatted up, bro.

Speaking of, I did watch the Lil Peep documentary on the plane. How long was this plane ride? Eight hours. Okay, that's fair. I've never listened to any Lil Peep. I knew a couple songs, but like... Like some of my friends are working in your times, like music stuff, loved him. And then I saw a friend of the show rock to con. John Carmonica loves little Pete, but like talking about it, about the documentary. So I'm like, Oh, let me check this out. Maybe this is, and then I, then I found out that Terrence Malick executive produced it. And I'm like, okay, what the fuck is going on with this? And then I'm, I'm watching it. It's like, the music is, is not. bad like i get the music it's like soundcloud emo with beats i get the music and why it's good and i get he's also hot like that's easy to understand but it's like his parents are kind of like you know his mom and his granddad his granddad's like kind of famous like harvard professor and they're just kind of like you know coastal like educated like middle class people and he's just like a kid that's upset his parents got divorced and he made some music and everybody in his crew is a mongloid like he has the weirdest grossest friends like it's so strange but like the documentary is just like yeah this guy's like a mall punk who discovered fucking trap beats i don't really get what i don't understand why he i mean he's a superstar and he was gonna be huge i get that part of it but like We just mythologize dying young so much. It's like gotten out of control. Yeah, I agree with that. Dying is cool, man. Dying is cool. Dying young is very cool. But I would advise watching it. I would love to hear your take on it. It's short. It's like an hour and 45. That's not short. That's longer than most movies. You've got nothing but time. I will get to it if I get to it, bro.

You watched the Pete Davidson MGK movie. Yeah, that's a new movie that people are talking about. There's some cool people in it. There's famous actors in it, kind of. Okay, okay. Yeah, famous actors. MGK, I get it. Look, the movie is not that good. Let's be honest. I can't wait to watch it. Do you think that there's a lot of... I think... Content-wise, a lot of stuff is hopefully going to change from short form to long form because we're going to have so much more time to kill. So hopefully the quibbies and the 60-second videos and all that stuff can go away. And then longer-form things like a two-hour-long peep doc or a bunch of pods or audiobooks or something like that will start to rise. That is not a bad theory. I could see that happening. I do think, but it might take longer than this break, however long this break is, to recondition people into wanting something longer. Even if they want something that's more in-depth, I think they would be more apt to digest it in like 15 parts. You know what I mean? That's true. People love to do that. But still, I mean... I mean, you know, that's not, that doesn't make it, I mean, it makes it shorter, but not shorter at the same time. Um, do you, um, do you want to answer some questions now? Yeah. You got it open or you want me to open it? I don't have it open. Yeah. Let me, let me open it. I want to have you be in charge of the emails and I'll be in charge of everything else. I like that division of labor. We're really playing to our strengths, Ken. You got to do something. Bitch, I'm the talent. You're the IT guy. Relax. You're Joe Rogan and I'm his tubby streetwear engineer. I'm so tired. Fuck Joe Rogan, bro. I can't believe people listen to that shit, dude. What the fuck? It's so weird.

You know, a lot of people are asking, Daniel asked about what quarantine media content do you recommend, books, movies, music, et cetera, and what home workout would you recommend? In fact, these are things we covered pretty clearly on the show. Well, yeah, I guess you can refer people to Yayo. Go to Yayo on Twitter. He posted his indoor workout. Yeah, his workout spreadsheet's good. He's thorough. I think that's a good place to start. And like I said, the Kira Stokes fit is good. I think the Nike Training Club is very good. He's that for a long time. All that stuff is good. Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Here's a question from a friend of the show, Ben Edgar. Great. Best hotel to be quarantined in? Chateau Marmont, the Mercer, Il Pelicano, or Hotel Cost in Paris? TJ, where are you going? I feel like this question is just so Ben can flex about all of the hotels he stays at. I don't think that's wrong, but I do think we have to show him the respect of answering the question. I mean, I haven't stayed in all of those hotels, so I guess I'm not qualified to answer it. You might... you might be more qualified to answer it than I. I haven't stayed in all these hotels, but I'm very familiar with all of them from a brand standpoint, and I've eaten at most of them. So there's four of them. Two of them were in... Chateau's in LA, Mercer's in New York, Il Pelicano's in Italy, and Hotel Coste's in Paris. I'm going to say Italy's out for now. Italy's going to be out for now, even though it's coastal, and you could probably get great service and maybe get the room for the low. We're going to have to rule it out. It is seemingly the epicenter of everything right now. I mean, I guess I'm going to go Chateau. I'm going Chateau too, baby. That's what I was about to say. They have an in-house doctor. Very discreet. Because you know I'm going to overdose. You know I'm going to overdose. Very discreet doctor.

They have a saltwater pool, which has healing properties. Healing properties. I feel like LA right now is the city to be in in America during this epidemic. I feel like that is very true, and I also would be willing to bet in about four days it's not anymore. But I don't think there will be anyone at that point. At that point, yeah. We're the last rise. But yeah, I think definitely Chateau because you can separate yourself in a bungalow. And also Chateau, they all have kitchens so I can get to cooking. And when you feel like being a bad boy, which I might once in three weeks, I could get some truffle fries. You can even get a truffle fry. The gym at the Chateau is dusty as fuck, but it would work. I did not even assume to think that that would be something that people would want to do. I want the gym at the Chateau to be very bad. My friend had sex with a girl on a bench there because that was the only place to go. Who's your friend? I don't want to talk about it, but it was somebody famous. Here's a question directed at you, TJ. Not directly by the fan, but I just don't know much here. Eileen, who has a Cornell email address, must be nice. Eileen. I need your take on Alison Roman. Is there a male equivalent? Is she as viral as my friends and I think her to be? We have been converted to her anchovy lovers because of her wisdom. Is this just a late 20s NYC woman thing? There's a lot of questions. Well, I mean, there's a lot of people who might not know who that is, but she's like a food writer, recipe person. But she's hot right now. She's definitely hot right now. She got known for having like a viral cookie recipe and a viral...

like soup recipe. I didn't know, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I thought it was just a book in general. I didn't know there was that. She, she, she blew up from a few recipes that were kind of, I guess like her whole vibe is, is a little bit like, like if Chrissy Teigen could actually cook maybe. Um, but it's, it's like real food that we all want to eat, but just in a new way that's better. Like I'm going to make a big potato, but then like she'll figure out a way to do it a little bit better. It's very accessible to everyone. She's not reinventing the wheel. She's making chocolate chip cookies or something. She's funny. I used to not like her at all, but now I've come around to her a little bit. I think she is developing into an interesting personality. We follow each other on Twitter. We have a lot of friends in common in real life, but I don't... know her like that yeah i think she's cool i think other i used to maybe think she was a little snobby or something like that but i think she's pretty cool now um but i don't know i mean you know she she probably saw a little opening and now she's really trying to blast off and and take it but you know is there are we even able to have somebody turn into a an ina garden or a martha stewart or you know some type of big what's the book called I don't know. I forgot what it's called. That shit was unavoidable. Nothing fancy is what it's called. It was unavoidable. But I feel like it's a good cookbook for this lockdown we're in if it's pretty simple and people can do it. Absolutely. And I've never cooked anything out of it, but I've been to some people's houses who did cook some things out of it and I was into it. It was a headache. So we can get Roman on the pod. We can. I could call Roman. I'm banger line right now. Yeah, we're going to have some guests. We just have to figure out technically how to do it. Maybe just a three-way call. Yeah, we'll do a three-way FT. But we've had a lot of interest from people that you know and love, personalities from the internet and the real world. So we'll start to line those up. But I think we should stop the questions for now. Have we done an hour? We did an hour.

Yeah, we're pretty much at an hour. We can close things out. But yeah, if you guys are listening, what is the email address that people can send questions to? The email address for questions is... Oh, God. Howlonggonepodcast at gmail.com. Send any questions there. Don't DM them. Don't add us on Twitter. Send them to the fucking email address like I asked. Yeah, and also this podcast is on Anchor FM, which is like a free Spotify platform for podcasting. And I think when you go to the website, you can send like a voice question if you don't want to do an email. And then we'll figure out how to like play those voicemail questions on the show. I think you have to sign up for an account, which sucks. But otherwise, you know, you can just send an email. So whatever questions you have and then hopefully we'll be doing the show as frequently as we can just because we all have a lot of time to listen and to pod. And to pod. We don't want to make any promises because obviously we would let you down. But we're going to do the show a lot. I feel confident. I will confidently say it'll be more than once a week. But that's all we can promise for now. Thank you, TJ. That's very diplomatic of you. I feel like I'm listening to the presidential debate right now. Making promises. Yeah, we're recording this podcast while the debate is happening. That's how much we wanted to feed the streets. We had to feed the streets because it's Monday and it's going to be a low Monday. Your email ain't going to be hidden. The fucking check didn't come through. You need Chris and TJ to lift your ass up. The email is not hitting this week. I will say that. Email quiet. Dusty. Dusty as hell. Everything's on hold. The only emails I'm getting are like J.Crew that I unsubscribe to. Should I try to get Caroline Calloway on the pod? One billion percent. Okay. I think I might be able to do that. All right. Well, we can start. She's team follow back.

Hell yes. Well, I mean, I think there's going to be a lot of people who, I mean, we already have like 10 people who have hit us up that are all verified. So that's a great start. Just to be clear, listeners, if you want to be a guest, you can't be unless you're verified. I just want to make that clear. I feel like if they're listening to this, they kind of already knew that, but just to reiterate. Yeah, I just want to make it very clear. It's in the bylaws. It's in the bylaws of our podcast. And you can't be a blue check that has like 3,700 followers. Sometimes you see the blue check and they got like 2,000, 3,000 followers. You can't be one of those. Those are people that work in media and their fucking social media person got them verified. Yeah. And we see right through you. Yeah, that's cheating. Okay. Well, you can follow me, Jason. On social media, at them jeans, Instagram, Twitter, all that stuff. You are at. What? Go ahead. Say your shit. You can follow me at done to death on Twitter at done to death projects on Instagram. Send any questions to the email. How long gone podcast at gmail.com. make sure you subscribe to this shit and we'll keep feeding you with stuff and we'll see how this show turns out it's sort of like a work in progress experiment to see what happens but thanks for listening to episode one we'll keep on coming stay inside losers bye losers bye